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[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

Joe,

When you bought the car did someone point to a number that matched the paperwork? They used to use engine numbers but the DMV's are getting away from that. There may be a tag installed by the DMV on the door jam.

Roadster top supports, which are frequently called grab handles because they is what they are often used for, support the roadster top and keep it off of the paint when the top is folded down. They are not "correct" as something that came from the factory on a coupe but frequently installed to be used as grab handles when getting in and out off the rumble seat.

Charlie Stephens

No The Owner Said It Was On The Frame, And Had Tpo Remove The Cab.
I Was Told That Vin # id Not Come Out Till The 50's And The Mod A Ford Used Body Numbers ?
Is That Right
Thanks
Harley03joe

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by Harley03joe

No The Owner Said It Was On The Frame, And Had Tpo Remove The Cab.
I Was Told That Vin # id Not Come Out Till The 50's And The Mod A Ford Used Body Numbers ?
Is That Right
Thanks
Harley03joe

The use of the term VIN did not come out until the fifties but prior to that they generally used the engine number or for some makes a serial number on a plate or a number stamped into the frame for a vehicle identification number. The Model A used the engine number. If you changed the engine you were supposed to notify the DMV. They did not use body numbers. The body numbers were only assigned to bodies that were not built by Ford and I believe your body style was built by Ford. Ask the seller to show you the body number that matches the title and sees what he does. Do not do anything with the car that involves investing money until the paperwork is straightened out. The owner was right about the number being on the frame (you have to lift the body to see it). This number should match the original engine serial number unless it has been replaced.

Charlie Stephens

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

The use of the term VIN did not come out until the fifties but prior to that they generally used the engine number or for some makes a serial number on a plate or a number stamped into the frame for a vehicle identification number. The Model A used the engine number. If you changed the engine you were supposed to notify the DMV. They did not use body numbers. The body numbers were only assigned to bodies that were not built by Ford and I believe your body style was built by Ford. Ask the seller to show you the body number that matches the title and sees what he does. Do not do anything with the car that involves investing money until the paperwork is straightened out. The owner was right about the number being on the frame (you have to lift the body to see it). This number should match the original engine serial number unless it has been replaced.

Charlie Stephens

Ok I Want To Thank You All For The Info You All Posted
It Is A Briggs
Thank You
Harley03joe

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by insomniacshotrods

Joe, Glad you bought it and are very proud of it. If this is your first one you have a lot to learn and this is a great place to start. Welcome aboard. Also your engine block on drivers side will have a number, mine was same as title and vin # Yours may not, not biggie if not. Cool car

Thank You Pal For The Nice Write Up, How Would I Know If It's A Briggs Or A Murry ?
Harley03joe

[Binger]

Coupes and roadster bodys were built by Ford. Murry and Briggs built Sedans. Great looking car. have a great time with it!!!

[Harley03joe]

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Originally Posted by Binger

Coupes and roadster bodys were built by Ford. Murry and Briggs built Sedans. Great looking car. have a great time with it!!!

Thank You , I Will Have Fun With Her

[Harley03joe]

Some FYI
Enjoy
Harley03joe

[swo4rd]

$14K,
Indented firewalls came out in June 31. The changed was occasioned by the breaking of the welds and rivets that held the steering column flange to the bottom of the tank, and then leaked gas. The complete change included the valve mounted on the recess in the firewall which was designed to take the fuel directly out of the tank into the fuel line, side bowl strainer on the carburetor (see your 31 Owners Handbook) , a new steering column support arm that fastened to the stronger cross bar above the gas tank. The service bulletins contain the note for the update kit and I believe instructions for modifying an earlier gas tank installation and finally, the safer fuel system (and that is relative) does not add any value to the car unless one wants the perceived security of not being doused with dripping gasoline from a leaking tank.

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by swo4rd

$14K,
Indented firewalls came out in June 31. The changed was occasioned by the breaking of the welds and rivets that held the steering column flange to the bottom of the tank, and then leaked gas. The complete change included the valve mounted on the recess in the firewall which was designed to take the fuel directly out of the tank into the fuel line, side bowl strainer on the carburetor (see your 31 Owners Handbook) , a new steering column support arm that fastened to the stronger cross bar above the gas tank. The service bulletins contain the note for the update kit and I believe instructions for modifying an earlier gas tank installation and finally, the safer fuel system (and that is relative) does not add any value to the car unless one wants the perceived security of not being doused with dripping gasoline from a leaking tank.

Question ?
What Is A Indented firewalls ?
Is This A Indented Firewall ?? Is It Early Or Late Mod.
Thank You For The Info
Harley03joe

[insomniacshotrods]

Briggs built the 2 window 4 door sedans and both Briggs and Murray built the 3 window 4 door sedans from what ive read. 2 door sedans where made by ford as with coupes ,pickups,roadsters. Please correct if im wrong.

[gweilbaker]

FYI

http://www.abarnyard.com/workshop/cpe-logo.htm

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by gweilbaker

FYI

http://www.abarnyard.com/workshop/cpe-logo.htm

Thank You I'LL Look For That Stamp

[Bob C]

This is an indented firewall.

Bob

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by Bob C

This is an indented firewall.

Bob

Thank You Bob

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by Bob C

This is an indented firewall.

Bob

Ok Bob So I Have The Indented Fire Wall ? Right

Bob Look At The Dash Fire Wall Pad I Found, What Do You Think ??

Must Have Been A Recall Back When Ha Ha
Thanks
Harley03joe

[Rex_A_Lott]

Originally Posted by Harley03joe

Ok Bob So I Have The Indented Fire Wall ? Right

Bob Look At The Dash Fire Wall Pad I Found, What Do You Think ??

Must Have Been A Recall Back When Ha Ha
Thanks
Harley03joe

You DONT have the indented firewall. Compare where your fuel line comes through the firewall with the one that BobC posted. Your fuel line shutoff should be on the inside, not under the hood. Nice car, enjoy.

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by Rex_A_Lott

You DONT have the indented firewall. Compare where your fuel line comes through the firewall with the one that BobC posted. Your fuel line shutoff should be on the inside, not under the hood. Nice car, enjoy.

Ok I See It Now Thank You For The Info
Harley03joe

[gweilbaker]

That stamp could show up anywhere, could have been ground off on a previous repaint or even buried in the primer coat. I didn't notice mine until I striped the paint.

Your car looks like a keeper, enjoy.

[Harley03joe]

Originally Posted by gweilbaker

That stamp could show up anywhere, could have been ground off on a previous repaint or even buried in the primer coat. I didn't notice mine until I striped the paint.

Your car looks like a keeper, enjoy.

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[bobpo1]

I have a friend who recently listed his 29-30 (not sure) pick-up for sale a got $24,000.
Driven quite often and looked great. Buyer was from down South, my friend lives up North. So it goes back to being worth whatever a buyer wants to pay. I also know a lady who has an immaculate 30 sedan with a trunk and she wants $18,000. A local guy is seriously considering that one.