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QGolden · 03-10-2014, 08:28 PM

I found this toy in an Antique Store the other day, I have some old Hubleys, and other cast toys, but have never seen this on. It has a number in the rumble seat compartment. Looks like 911 or 116.

Anyone have any idea on the value?

28ACoupe · 03-10-2014, 08:56 PM

Picture?

lookin-backtexas · 03-11-2014, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QGolden

I found this toy in an Antique Store the other day, I have some old Hubleys, and other cast toys, but have never seen this on. It has a number in the rumble seat compartment. Looks like 911 or 116.

Anyone have any idea on the value?

No offense intended but your question without a photo posted to identify the toy is like asking someone, "What's my old car worth and not indicating what kind of car or year it is." We need photos to identify the toy, see its condition and determine the estimated value. I have lots of antique toys and several guidebooks showing their value but without knowing which toy it is no one can help you.
Fred

FL&WVMIKE · 03-11-2014, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QGolden

I found this toy in an Antique Store the other day, I have some old Hubleys, and other cast toys, but have never seen this on. It has a number in the rumble seat compartment. Looks like 911 or 116.

Anyone have any idea on the value?

QGolden ....................
In antique toys, the important thing to value is condition, condition and condition. That is why a picture is important to estimate a value. Original paint is very important.
MIKE (mikeburch)

QGolden · 03-11-2014, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lookin-backtexas

No offense intended but your question without a photo posted to identify the toy is like asking someone, "What's my old car worth and not indicating what kind of car or year it is."
Fred

No offense taken, I posted pictures and they were in the preview, but for some reason did not come across. Trying again, thank you for the reply.

ronn · 03-11-2014, 09:58 AM

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first question- is it old or "new"..................

only 116 marking?

QGolden · 03-11-2014, 10:28 AM

I am pretty sure it is old, and I think I screwed up and missed the mark on it. From doing a little online searching, I think there was probably a mark as indicated in red below, and I missed it, looking inside I was expecting to see it on the roof or under the hood like a Hubley or a Tootsietoy. Guess I am gonna' have to get back in and take another look. I have several car and truck toys, but mostly what I "inherited" and some that were "premiums" at the Mobil Station that we used to own back in the 50's and 60's, but I do not dabble in that market. I just thought it was cool, and it would look good with the others on my shelf.

figment · 03-11-2014, 10:56 AM

I saw a white tag that has the word ARCADE. If the toy is marked on the inside (side ) Arcade then it most likely is a good cast iron vintage toy. There are always some on Ebay and they usually go for more that the $75.00 price shown on the white tag.

jkcrosson · 03-11-2014, 11:15 AM

I thinks the $75 is for the showboat behind the car. I see a 17_ or a 12_ on the tag for the coupe.

fordcoupe · 03-11-2014, 11:27 AM

Hubley were a very good toy maker that lasted for years and had Numbers and markings on the bottom of the toys I have a few of the old ones a cop on a motorcycle and farm tractor my favorites are the ones that came as a model kit that you put together made from cast alum. from the 50's-60's they offered a few assorted model A's back them sometimes you find them at flea markets still in the kit form for around $75.00 and up. and e-bay luck was finding one for $3.00 with roof was missing at the flea mkt. if only it was at a barn sale it would have been a barn find

QGolden · 03-11-2014, 11:28 AM

Yes 75 is for the showboat, they want 125 for the car, but in many cases asking price has little to do with selling price. I also think you are right, it is probably an Arcade. Thanks, with the word "Arcade" I was able to do a qualified search and find similar ones on eBay.

FL&WVMIKE · 03-11-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by QGolden

Yes 75 is for the showboat, they want 125 for the car, but in many cases asking price has little to do with selling price. I also think you are right, it is probably an Arcade. Thanks, with the word "Arcade" I was able to do a qualified search and find similar ones on eBay.

QGolden ....................
I think $125.00 is a little high. He is, probably, expecting a counter offer. Tell him that you were looking to pay about $50.00 for it. See what he comes up with. If that is not the original paint, it is worth way less.
It's really hard to price, someone else's antique.
MIKE (mikeburch)

QGolden · 03-11-2014, 03:06 PM

Thanks Mike, it looks to me like the Green is original, but the roof top might be re-painted. I am still looking for comps to determine. I agree 125 seems to me to be full premium.

John · 03-11-2014, 04:06 PM

It is made by Arcade. The car is a repainted 30's kids toy. Very collectible, but better deals can be found on Ebay from time to time. The following link will give a value guide. As in the real Model A's, condition and originality mean everything.

http://www.realpriceguides.com/arcade/arcade.htm

John

lookin-backtexas · 03-11-2014, 05:19 PM

John:
The realpricequide you linked to does not list a 116 Model A Coupe with rumble seat but it does list a 6-3/4 inch long Model A Coupe number 106 valued at $550. According to O'Brien's "Collecting Toy Cars & Trucks" Identification and Value Guide (4th edition) copyright 2005, they list a Model A Coupe, rumble seat, No. 116X, 1928, 5" long as being worth $200 in played with condition. The original poster should confirm the length of the car but because it has the number 116 cast into it, it should be 5" long. It does appear to have been repainted at one time making it less valuable.

Here's a link to a red one that sold on ebay for $150 in December.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ARCA...item461733d8da

and here's a link to a green one that sold for $99.99 in December. Note the different shade of green on the ebay original vs. the photos shown above in post #5.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Arcade-192...item20dce8faf9

Fred

QGolden · 03-11-2014, 10:23 PM

Excellent information, thank you to all.

700rpm · 03-11-2014, 10:51 PM

$125 is what I paid for my first Model A, real, complete , no rust, unrestored... In 1961!

03-10-2014, 08:28 PM	#1
QGolden Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 1,231	Toy Collectors Value question I found this toy in an Antique Store the other day, I have some old Hubleys, and other cast toys, but have never seen this on. It has a number in the rumble seat compartment. Looks like 911 or 116. Anyone have any idea on the value? __________________ It's not what people think they know that will hurt them, it is what they think they know that aint so! -Mark Twain. It is the very things that we think we know, that keep us from learning what we should know.- Unknown

03-10-2014, 08:56 PM	#2
28ACoupe Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 559	Re: Toy Collectors Value question Picture? __________________ 1928 Model A Business Coupe Rebuild picture gallery here The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off due to budget cuts.

03-11-2014, 09:58 AM	#6
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 7,650	Re: Toy Collectors Value question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) first question- is it old or "new".................. only 116 marking?

03-11-2014, 10:56 AM	#8
figment Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 340	Re: Toy Collectors Value question I saw a white tag that has the word ARCADE. If the toy is marked on the inside (side ) Arcade then it most likely is a good cast iron vintage toy. There are always some on Ebay and they usually go for more that the $75.00 price shown on the white tag.

03-11-2014, 11:27 AM	#10
fordcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 156	Re: Toy Collectors Value question Hubley were a very good toy maker that lasted for years and had Numbers and markings on the bottom of the toys I have a few of the old ones a cop on a motorcycle and farm tractor my favorites are the ones that came as a model kit that you put together made from cast alum. from the 50's-60's they offered a few assorted model A's back them sometimes you find them at flea markets still in the kit form for around $75.00 and up. and e-bay luck was finding one for $3.00 with roof was missing at the flea mkt. if only it was at a barn sale it would have been a barn find

03-11-2014, 11:28 AM	#11
QGolden Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 1,231	Re: Toy Collectors Value question Yes 75 is for the showboat, they want 125 for the car, but in many cases asking price has little to do with selling price. I also think you are right, it is probably an Arcade. Thanks, with the word "Arcade" I was able to do a qualified search and find similar ones on eBay. __________________ It's not what people think they know that will hurt them, it is what they think they know that aint so! -Mark Twain. It is the very things that we think we know, that keep us from learning what we should know.- Unknown

03-11-2014, 03:06 PM	#13
QGolden Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 1,231	Re: Toy Collectors Value question Thanks Mike, it looks to me like the Green is original, but the roof top might be re-painted. I am still looking for comps to determine. I agree 125 seems to me to be full premium. __________________ It's not what people think they know that will hurt them, it is what they think they know that aint so! -Mark Twain. It is the very things that we think we know, that keep us from learning what we should know.- Unknown

03-11-2014, 04:06 PM	#14
John Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 214	Re: Toy Collectors Value question It is made by Arcade. The car is a repainted 30's kids toy. Very collectible, but better deals can be found on Ebay from time to time. The following link will give a value guide. As in the real Model A's, condition and originality mean everything. http://www.realpriceguides.com/arcade/arcade.htm John

03-11-2014, 05:19 PM	#15
lookin-backtexas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 396	Re: Toy Collectors Value question John: The realpricequide you linked to does not list a 116 Model A Coupe with rumble seat but it does list a 6-3/4 inch long Model A Coupe number 106 valued at $550. According to O'Brien's "Collecting Toy Cars & Trucks" Identification and Value Guide (4th edition) copyright 2005, they list a Model A Coupe, rumble seat, No. 116X, 1928, 5" long as being worth $200 in played with condition. The original poster should confirm the length of the car but because it has the number 116 cast into it, it should be 5" long. It does appear to have been repainted at one time making it less valuable. Here's a link to a red one that sold on ebay for $150 in December. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ARCA...item461733d8da and here's a link to a green one that sold for $99.99 in December. Note the different shade of green on the ebay original vs. the photos shown above in post #5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Arcade-192...item20dce8faf9 Fred __________________ Fred Carlton Life Member AACA 44 year member MAFCA Editor of The Restorer magazine, official publication of MAFCA 12 years Life Member Dallas Model A Ford Club (44 years) 23 year member & founder Lone Star Model A Ford Club Chairman 35th Model A Ford Texas Tour 1998 (state convention) Chairman 42nd Model A Ford Texas Tour 2005 (state convention) Charter Member Ford Model AA Truck Club If you aren't driving your antique car frequently, you might as well be collecting clocks!!! Last edited by lookin-backtexas; 03-11-2014 at 05:29 PM.

03-11-2014, 10:23 PM	#16
QGolden Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 1,231	Re: Toy Collectors Value question Excellent information, thank you to all. __________________ It's not what people think they know that will hurt them, it is what they think they know that aint so! -Mark Twain. It is the very things that we think we know, that keep us from learning what we should know.- Unknown

03-11-2014, 10:51 PM	#17
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 6,039	Re: Toy Collectors Value question $125 is what I paid for my first Model A, real, complete , no rust, unrestored... In 1961! __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.