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psimet · 05-14-2025, 12:50 PM

I have a Sept ‘28 Tudor that has the Pistol Grip Emergency Brake handle. While restoring the shift tower I tackled the handle and rack and etc.

I purchased a replacement pawl from Snyders. I went to put it on last thing and while it ratchets great pulling back on the lever I can not disengage it. The pawl doesn’t clear the ratchet teeth.

I compared it to the original pawl and it’s clocked slightly different.

This is with the lever pressed all the way down with the new pawl.

This is the old pawl stacked on top of the new one.

Question: do I grind the new pawl to match closer to the original or do I buy a replacement ratchet rack from Snyders and hope it will clear the new pawl?

Yes the old pawl works but the nose of it is gone and it doesn’t hold well.

Other picture for reference.

psimet · 05-14-2025, 12:52 PM

Also of note none of the E brake handle internal rods offered by anyone are short enough to work in this handle so I have to use the original. Sure it’s not 100% but it’s been blasted and nickel plated (because I can). Can’t help but feel like if the rod was about 1/4”-1/2” longer it would allow the pawl to clear.

nkaminar · 05-14-2025, 01:17 PM

File or Dremel cutoff tool.

Kurt in NJ · 05-14-2025, 01:47 PM

There are several different pawls which one did you get?

Bob C · 05-14-2025, 02:02 PM

Any of these match?

psimet · 05-14-2025, 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C

Any of these match?

That’s what I bought. The AR. Like I said it’s a sept 28 and that shape matches - but it’s “off”

psimet · 05-14-2025, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkaminar

File or Dremel cutoff tool.

That’s where I’m leaning.

Benson · 05-14-2025, 02:56 PM

Is the small pin worn?

Looks that way from post one, photo one and photo two.

Bob C · 05-14-2025, 04:35 PM

That's strange, there is no way a reproduction part could be made wrong.

psimet · 05-14-2025, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson

Is the small pin worn?

Looks that way from post one, photo one and photo two.

Small pin is worn but even then the whole pawl is clocked incorrectly. You can see the difference when lining up the holes and looking at the pawl shape.

Clem Clement · 05-14-2025, 07:20 PM

There are at least 3 kinds of paus shapes

katy · 05-15-2025, 08:53 AM

Over the years the handle assembly may have been replaced.

ronn · 05-15-2025, 09:00 AM

take the original, sharpen it and reinstall

psimet · 05-15-2025, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katy

Over the years the handle assembly may have been replaced.

Definitely was not replaced. It's original.

psimet · 05-15-2025, 05:14 PM

Ground it down. Now it works great.

nkaminar · 05-15-2025, 06:35 PM

Thanks for the update. All of us continue to learn and it helps when the solution to a problem is posted.

05-14-2025, 12:50 PM	#1
psimet Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 247	Emergency Brake Pawl Issue I have a Sept ‘28 Tudor that has the Pistol Grip Emergency Brake handle. While restoring the shift tower I tackled the handle and rack and etc. I purchased a replacement pawl from Snyders. I went to put it on last thing and while it ratchets great pulling back on the lever I can not disengage it. The pawl doesn’t clear the ratchet teeth. I compared it to the original pawl and it’s clocked slightly different. This is with the lever pressed all the way down with the new pawl. This is the old pawl stacked on top of the new one. Question: do I grind the new pawl to match closer to the original or do I buy a replacement ratchet rack from Snyders and hope it will clear the new pawl? Yes the old pawl works but the nose of it is gone and it doesn’t hold well. Other picture for reference.

05-14-2025, 12:52 PM	#2
psimet Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 247	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue Also of note none of the E brake handle internal rods offered by anyone are short enough to work in this handle so I have to use the original. Sure it’s not 100% but it’s been blasted and nickel plated (because I can). Can’t help but feel like if the rod was about 1/4”-1/2” longer it would allow the pawl to clear.

05-14-2025, 01:17 PM	#3
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,860	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue File or Dremel cutoff tool. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

05-14-2025, 02:56 PM	#8
Benson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cen~Col - Central Highlands Posts: 2,757	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue Is the small pin worn? Looks that way from post one, photo one and photo two. Last edited by Benson; 05-14-2025 at 03:25 PM.

05-14-2025, 04:35 PM	#9
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,360	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue That's strange, there is no way a reproduction part could be made wrong.

05-14-2025, 07:20 PM	#11
Clem Clement Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 3,532	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue There are at least 3 kinds of paus shapes

05-15-2025, 08:53 AM	#12
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,715	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue Over the years the handle assembly may have been replaced. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

05-15-2025, 09:00 AM	#13
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 7,647	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue take the original, sharpen it and reinstall

05-15-2025, 05:14 PM	#15
psimet Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 247	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue Ground it down. Now it works great.

05-15-2025, 06:35 PM	#16
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,860	Re: Emergency Brake Pawl Issue Thanks for the update. All of us continue to learn and it helps when the solution to a problem is posted. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.