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KJ714 · 01-10-2023, 05:32 PM

Hi,

I'm going to remove a 1936 flathead engine from the car and seperate from the transmission. Is there anything special to do or be careful about concerning the throw out, clutch, or clutch basket ? Removing the engine for rebuild. I've done this in late model cars a few times but never an early V8 so just checking before I create a mini disaster, thanks.

Steve in Denver · 01-10-2023, 06:34 PM

I took mine out engine and trans at the same time. I removed the grill and used an engine hoist with one of those engine tilt things so I could almost stand the engine and trans straight. I rented a 1 1/2 ton hoist. I should have rented the 2 1/2 ton hoist. the 1 1/2 did not have enough length to easily reach the engine. Oh, and I removed the manifold and made a plate to bolt to the engine, then to attach the hoist to. I probably could have just bolted it to the block, but did not want to scratch or dent anything.

Mart · 01-10-2023, 07:11 PM

Separation of the engine and transmission is purely conventional. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Removal of the engine from the vehicle is subject to a lot more consideration, but I am not sure if you are asking about that. Engine steady rods for example will need to be detached.

Mac VP · 01-11-2023, 06:53 AM

There are two dowel pins in the engine block to help align the gearbox to the engine block. They can be a snug fit and you will have to carefully pry the two (engine and transmission) apart about a half inch. Depending on how long the engine and transmission have lived together, and how much of a damp environment they’ve endured, the input shaft of the trans could be stuck to the clutch disc…..which can resist separation.

Mart · 01-11-2023, 07:58 AM

Sometimes pressing on the clutch pedal can help push the engine away from the trans.

KJ714 · 01-11-2023, 03:23 PM

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Awesome, thanks for the great tips everyone!

47topless · 01-11-2023, 08:58 PM

My vote is remove engine and tranny together. Makes installation much easier.

KJ714 · 01-12-2023, 01:54 PM

I can do either way, the body is off the frame. I have a later model flattie that I want to hook up and run for a little bit while the 36 flathead is getting refurbished.

01-10-2023, 05:32 PM	#1
KJ714 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 58	Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission Hi, I'm going to remove a 1936 flathead engine from the car and seperate from the transmission. Is there anything special to do or be careful about concerning the throw out, clutch, or clutch basket ? Removing the engine for rebuild. I've done this in late model cars a few times but never an early V8 so just checking before I create a mini disaster, thanks.

01-10-2023, 06:34 PM	#2
Steve in Denver Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 595	Re: Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission I took mine out engine and trans at the same time. I removed the grill and used an engine hoist with one of those engine tilt things so I could almost stand the engine and trans straight. I rented a 1 1/2 ton hoist. I should have rented the 2 1/2 ton hoist. the 1 1/2 did not have enough length to easily reach the engine. Oh, and I removed the manifold and made a plate to bolt to the engine, then to attach the hoist to. I probably could have just bolted it to the block, but did not want to scratch or dent anything. __________________ Steve in Denver

01-10-2023, 07:11 PM	#3
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,080	Re: Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission Separation of the engine and transmission is purely conventional. Nothing out of the ordinary. Removal of the engine from the vehicle is subject to a lot more consideration, but I am not sure if you are asking about that. Engine steady rods for example will need to be detached.

01-11-2023, 06:53 AM	#4
Mac VP Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,430	Re: Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission There are two dowel pins in the engine block to help align the gearbox to the engine block. They can be a snug fit and you will have to carefully pry the two (engine and transmission) apart about a half inch. Depending on how long the engine and transmission have lived together, and how much of a damp environment they’ve endured, the input shaft of the trans could be stuck to the clutch disc…..which can resist separation. __________________ VANPELT SALES LLC Cincinnati, Ohio Office: 513-724-9486 www.vanpeltsales.com www.classictransmission.com

01-11-2023, 07:58 AM	#5
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,080	Re: Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission Sometimes pressing on the clutch pedal can help push the engine away from the trans.

01-11-2023, 03:23 PM	#6
KJ714 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 58	Re: Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Awesome, thanks for the great tips everyone!

01-11-2023, 08:58 PM	#7
47topless Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 463	Re: Seperating 1936 flathead engine and transmission My vote is remove engine and tranny together. Makes installation much easier. Last edited by 47topless; 01-11-2023 at 10:13 PM.