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Gino · 01-09-2013, 06:53 PM

Hi, I want to Pull the existing engine from my 30" coupe and install a temporary engine ( life is not good if I'm not driving my A" ) is it easier to pull both the engine and transmission as one piece and then reinstall in one piece? I hope you get what I mean. Thanks a lot Gino.

Vanspeed · 01-09-2013, 06:58 PM

I always install in one piece but that is just me.

Mitch//pa · 01-09-2013, 07:04 PM

i split them less work

A31Woody · 01-09-2013, 07:08 PM

I split them when I did it. I see no reason to remove the transmission if there is nothing wrong with it.

Maclab58 · 01-09-2013, 07:21 PM

I split mine also.

TinCup · 01-09-2013, 07:52 PM

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If I am just changing engine I just pull the motor. Reconnecting the ujoint clamshell takes as long or longer than swapping the motors. I only pull the transmission if I am unsure of it or the u-joints condition.

Tom Wesenberg · 01-09-2013, 09:49 PM

Engine only with me also.

Fred K-OR · 01-09-2013, 10:01 PM

The limited times I have done this sort of things, I have pulled both at one time.

Milton · 01-09-2013, 11:33 PM

Split!

BashawT · 01-09-2013, 11:47 PM

Unless you're doing work to both I'd split

Logan · 01-10-2013, 02:11 AM

Split forsure. It's hard enough getting the motor in between the stock motor mounts. Muchless while trying to put the transmission with the drive shaft at the same time.

ctlikon0712 · 01-10-2013, 05:59 AM

Yes the last time I did it I did it as one unit, I had a engine tilter. I wished I had just pulled the motor. Logan and the others are right, its just easier not dealing with the u-joint, even with the clutch issue.

Vanspeed · 01-10-2013, 11:35 AM

really guys? I had my engine and trans out and the new engine and trans back in in less than an hour. Maybe it's because I am younger.

Logan · 01-10-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanspeed

really guys? I had my engine and trans out and the new engine and trans back in in less than an hour. Maybe it's because I am younger.

I'm 19 and have done countless engine swaps and the couple different shops I've worked at. You got lucky with yours, especially of you have stock motor mounts. I've had to use frame spreaders, and porta-power hydraulic jacks meant for body work to spread the frame rails. Then also take out one motor mount to get the motor into place. Then drive the other motor mount back into place with a 3 pound sledge. And thankfully I didn't have to do that while installing the tranny at the same time.

bill44 · 01-10-2013, 02:12 PM

I just did a split. Takes a few hours, less if you have help.

Dave in MN · 01-10-2013, 05:05 PM

I install about 1-2 engines a month with the engines I rebuild. I prefer to split. I don't know what it is about repacking the U-joint with grease but I hate it! I don't go there if I don't have to. Now maybe if my wife would have bought me one of those cool cordless grease guns instead of a new shirt and tie for Christmas I'd change my mind...she didn't so...again, I would split it!
Good Day!

ps: I'm not complaining...the shirt and tie look good but a cordless grease gun could look better.

Tom Wesenberg · 01-10-2013, 07:39 PM

"ps: I'm not complaining...the shirt and tie look good but a cordless grease gun could look better."

Dave, I'm using the cordless grease gun that came with my car when it was sold new!

CarlG · 01-10-2013, 08:01 PM

Not cordless, but works great!

green30coupe · 01-10-2013, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

"ps: I'm not complaining...the shirt and tie look good but a cordless grease gun could look better."

Dave, I'm using the cordless grease gun that came with my car when it was sold new!

I'm with Tom. All my grease guns are cordless!

Ed

Domino · 01-10-2013, 09:32 PM

split

01-09-2013, 06:53 PM	#1
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Falmouth, Ma. Posts: 313	Engine swap Hi, I want to Pull the existing engine from my 30" coupe and install a temporary engine ( life is not good if I'm not driving my A" ) is it easier to pull both the engine and transmission as one piece and then reinstall in one piece? I hope you get what I mean. Thanks a lot Gino.

01-09-2013, 06:58 PM	#2
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,444	Re: Engine swap I always install in one piece but that is just me. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

01-09-2013, 07:04 PM	#3
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Engine swap i split them less work Last edited by Mitch//pa; 01-09-2013 at 07:13 PM.

01-09-2013, 07:08 PM	#4
A31Woody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 136	Re: Engine swap I split them when I did it. I see no reason to remove the transmission if there is nothing wrong with it.

01-09-2013, 07:21 PM	#5
Maclab58 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 983	Re: Engine swap I split mine also.

01-09-2013, 07:52 PM	#6
TinCup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: OKC / Tonkawa, Ok. Posts: 1,977	Re: Engine swap Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If I am just changing engine I just pull the motor. Reconnecting the ujoint clamshell takes as long or longer than swapping the motors. I only pull the transmission if I am unsure of it or the u-joints condition. __________________ Oklahoma City Model A Restorers Group.

01-09-2013, 09:49 PM	#7
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Engine swap Engine only with me also.

01-09-2013, 10:01 PM	#8
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: Engine swap The limited times I have done this sort of things, I have pulled both at one time. __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

01-09-2013, 11:33 PM	#9
Milton Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 837	Re: Engine swap Split!

01-09-2013, 11:47 PM	#10
BashawT Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 316	Re: Engine swap Unless you're doing work to both I'd split

01-10-2013, 02:11 AM	#11
Logan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 1,055	Re: Engine swap Split forsure. It's hard enough getting the motor in between the stock motor mounts. Muchless while trying to put the transmission with the drive shaft at the same time. __________________ Cowtown A's

01-10-2013, 05:59 AM	#12
ctlikon0712 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,609	Re: Engine swap Yes the last time I did it I did it as one unit, I had a engine tilter. I wished I had just pulled the motor. Logan and the others are right, its just easier not dealing with the u-joint, even with the clutch issue. __________________ Wanted: Simmons Super Power Head Craig Likon 1931 150B

01-10-2013, 11:35 AM	#13
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,444	Re: Engine swap really guys? I had my engine and trans out and the new engine and trans back in in less than an hour. Maybe it's because I am younger. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

01-10-2013, 02:12 PM	#15
bill44 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Auburn, CA Posts: 64	Re: Engine swap I just did a split. Takes a few hours, less if you have help.

01-10-2013, 05:05 PM	#16
Dave in MN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jordan, MN Posts: 1,416	Re: Engine swap I install about 1-2 engines a month with the engines I rebuild. I prefer to split. I don't know what it is about repacking the U-joint with grease but I hate it! I don't go there if I don't have to. Now maybe if my wife would have bought me one of those cool cordless grease guns instead of a new shirt and tie for Christmas I'd change my mind...she didn't so...again, I would split it! Good Day! ps: I'm not complaining...the shirt and tie look good but a cordless grease gun could look better. Last edited by Dave in MN; 01-10-2013 at 05:12 PM.

01-10-2013, 07:39 PM	#17
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Engine swap "ps: I'm not complaining...the shirt and tie look good but a cordless grease gun could look better." Dave, I'm using the cordless grease gun that came with my car when it was sold new!

01-10-2013, 09:32 PM	#20
Domino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 412	Re: Engine swap split