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Rocky Rocket · 07-06-2025, 02:39 PM

I am puting on a new water inlet neck. The stud bolts are about 6'' long. The bolts that came with the inlet are bolts, about 21/2" long. The car is a 1931 fordoor model a. Does anyone know if the long stud bolts were the normal size studs used in the passenger car motors?

Big hammer · 07-06-2025, 03:01 PM

I’am confused ? The water inlet is on the side of the engine and uses 2 1/2 bolts, the water outlet uses long head studs and screw into the head !

bobbader · 07-06-2025, 04:24 PM

In other words, ..................... the WATER INLET is the small, angled pipe that mounts to the driver's side of the block, with the 2 & 1/2 inch bolts you have.

The WATER OUTLET (or as some of us refer to it, the "gooseneck") mounts to the top of the cylinder head at the front of the engine with the 6" studs you refer to.

Many folks assume the water flows from the top hose, through the "gooseneck", into the cylinder head and block, and exits the engine through the coupling on the driver's side of the block. In actuality, with the engine running, the water flows out the bottom radiator neck, up through the lower hoses and bypass pipe, INTO the side coupling (INLET), through the water chambers in the block and head, and is propelled (actually IM-PELLED) through the "gooseneck" (WATER OUTLET) up the top hose, into the top radiator neck, and, finally, deposited back into the radiator.

1crosscut · 07-06-2025, 05:10 PM

If there were studs on the side of the block that were used to mount the water inlet they are not correct. It is attached with bolts that have a 5/8" head.

Y-Blockhead · 07-06-2025, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big hammer

I’am confused ? The water inlet is on the side of the engine and uses 2 1/2 bolts, the water outlet uses long head studs and screw into the head !

Big, I don't think you are the one that is confused...

JayJay · 07-06-2025, 07:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big hammer

I’am confused ? The water inlet is on the side of the engine and uses 2 1/2 bolts, the water outlet uses long head studs and screw into the head !

I believe that the studs for the upper fitting (outlet, “gooseneck”) screw into the block and pass through the head. The head is sandwiched between the block and the gooseneck.

Bob Bidonde · 07-07-2025, 07:08 AM

If it is the water outlet fitting being discussed, here are some tips.

nkaminar · 07-07-2025, 08:45 AM

I just use a gasket sealer and no gasket.

Rocky Rocket · 07-07-2025, 09:25 AM

correct It is the water outlet. The water outlet... I received had the two inlet bolts. it sounds like the supplier and myself both were confused. I couldn't find the long studs on Snyders site. Thanks for the correction. This forum is better than any book I've ran across and I have them all!

Rocky Rocket · 07-07-2025, 09:36 AM

oh yea... great info Bob thanks for the pic'! The brown paper bag gasket and thin smear of Permatex Indian Head Gasket Shellac will be my attack plan!

Y-Blockhead · 07-07-2025, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkaminar

I just use a gasket sealer and no gasket.

Yes, a very thin smear of 'The Right Stuff'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky Rocket

I couldn't find the long studs on Snyders site.

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...d=978670&cat=0

JayJay · 07-07-2025, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky Rocket

correct It is the water outlet. The water outlet... I received had the two inlet bolts. it sounds like the supplier and myself both were confused. I couldn't find the long studs on Snyders site. Thanks for the correction. This forum is better than any book I've ran across and I have them all!

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/p...d=978670&cat=0

07-06-2025, 03:01 PM	#2
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,430	Re: Water inlet stud bolts I’am confused ? The water inlet is on the side of the engine and uses 2 1/2 bolts, the water outlet uses long head studs and screw into the head ! __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

07-06-2025, 04:24 PM	#3
bobbader Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 352	Re: Water inlet stud bolts In other words, ..................... the WATER INLET is the small, angled pipe that mounts to the driver's side of the block, with the 2 & 1/2 inch bolts you have. The WATER OUTLET (or as some of us refer to it, the "gooseneck") mounts to the top of the cylinder head at the front of the engine with the 6" studs you refer to. Many folks assume the water flows from the top hose, through the "gooseneck", into the cylinder head and block, and exits the engine through the coupling on the driver's side of the block. In actuality, with the engine running, the water flows out the bottom radiator neck, up through the lower hoses and bypass pipe, INTO the side coupling (INLET), through the water chambers in the block and head, and is propelled (actually IM-PELLED) through the "gooseneck" (WATER OUTLET) up the top hose, into the top radiator neck, and, finally, deposited back into the radiator.

07-06-2025, 05:10 PM	#4
1crosscut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,011	Re: Water inlet stud bolts If there were studs on the side of the block that were used to mount the water inlet they are not correct. It is attached with bolts that have a 5/8" head. __________________ Dave / Lincoln Nebraska

07-07-2025, 08:45 AM	#8
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 5,854	Re: Water inlet stud bolts I just use a gasket sealer and no gasket. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

07-07-2025, 09:25 AM	#9
Rocky Rocket Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Princeton Indiana Posts: 23	Re: Water inlet stud bolts correct It is the water outlet. The water outlet... I received had the two inlet bolts. it sounds like the supplier and myself both were confused. I couldn't find the long studs on Snyders site. Thanks for the correction. This forum is better than any book I've ran across and I have them all!

07-07-2025, 09:36 AM	#10
Rocky Rocket Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Princeton Indiana Posts: 23	Re: Water inlet stud bolts oh yea... great info Bob thanks for the pic'! The brown paper bag gasket and thin smear of Permatex Indian Head Gasket Shellac will be my attack plan!