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Mart · 11-18-2022, 03:00 PM

The old 59A in the 32 was still suffering with low oil pressure at idle. I checked the cam and bearings and there was no opportunity for improvement there. I measured the bearings and concluded that the problem was excessive clearances. While looking at oil pumps I realised that one oil pump I had would provide increased volume. Could this be the answer? Who knows? It's worth a try!

https://youtu.be/OPGXaNZzCJQ

19Fordy · 11-18-2022, 06:42 PM

I doubt it would help the oil pressure but, it might pump more oil through the system.

Mart · 11-18-2022, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

I doubt it would help the oil pressure but, it might pump more oil through the system.

Oil pressure went from 0 psi at idle with the 59A pump to 15 psi at idle with the French pump. A high volume pump like the French one did help the oil pressure in this worn old flatty.

I wasn't asking the question, I was posting a link to a video.

mfirth · 11-19-2022, 07:36 AM

Thanks Mart !!!! For being "tired", she sounds GR8 to me. Good show old chap ! Cheers !
mike

GB SISSON · 11-19-2022, 11:11 AM

Mart, your results were indeed Quite Impressive! I have spent many, many hours in the last 30 years obsessing about oil pressure in the used, reconditioned and overhauled flatheads I have owned over the years (*just ask my wives). In the early years I had two professional engine rebuilds done. The first cost 2500.00 and never developed decent pressure and the company was in bankrupcy so no recourse. Second was 5 grand and was excellent. So my 'store bought' motors were 50/50. For the last 25 years I have been doing what you do with known good parts and careful measuring and I have improved my averages by leaps and bounds! Many will say they have 2 lbs at hot idle etc and she runs great, so don't worry about it. Not me, that would never do. Thanks for that video Mart and thanks for keeping it real.

19Fordy · 11-19-2022, 11:25 AM

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Mart: THANK YOU for disproving my thinking. Glad there was improvement.

51woodie · 11-19-2022, 11:33 AM

The basics of hydraulics, is that a pump only produces flow. It is the resistance to flow that creates pressure. Ergo, increased flow will generate more pressure. Good job Mart, and thank you for sharing.

11-18-2022, 03:00 PM	#1
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 9,088	Can a French oil pump help a worn out flatty? The old 59A in the 32 was still suffering with low oil pressure at idle. I checked the cam and bearings and there was no opportunity for improvement there. I measured the bearings and concluded that the problem was excessive clearances. While looking at oil pumps I realised that one oil pump I had would provide increased volume. Could this be the answer? Who knows? It's worth a try! https://youtu.be/OPGXaNZzCJQ

11-18-2022, 06:42 PM	#2
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,604	Re: Can a French oil pump help a worn out flatty? I doubt it would help the oil pressure but, it might pump more oil through the system.

11-19-2022, 07:36 AM	#4
mfirth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ohio Posts: 1,103	Re: Can a French oil pump help a worn out flatty? Thanks Mart !!!! For being "tired", she sounds GR8 to me. Good show old chap ! Cheers ! mike

11-19-2022, 11:11 AM	#5
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 5,881	Re: Can a French oil pump help a worn out flatty? Mart, your results were indeed Quite Impressive! I have spent many, many hours in the last 30 years obsessing about oil pressure in the used, reconditioned and overhauled flatheads I have owned over the years (*just ask my wives). In the early years I had two professional engine rebuilds done. The first cost 2500.00 and never developed decent pressure and the company was in bankrupcy so no recourse. Second was 5 grand and was excellent. So my 'store bought' motors were 50/50. For the last 25 years I have been doing what you do with known good parts and careful measuring and I have improved my averages by leaps and bounds! Many will say they have 2 lbs at hot idle etc and she runs great, so don't worry about it. Not me, that would never do. Thanks for that video Mart and thanks for keeping it real. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

11-19-2022, 11:25 AM	#6
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 11,604	Re: Can a French oil pump help a worn out flatty? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Mart: THANK YOU for disproving my thinking. Glad there was improvement.

11-19-2022, 11:33 AM	#7
51woodie Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Chelmsford, ON Canada Posts: 604	Re: Can a French oil pump help a worn out flatty? The basics of hydraulics, is that a pump only produces flow. It is the resistance to flow that creates pressure. Ergo, increased flow will generate more pressure. Good job Mart, and thank you for sharing.