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Werner · 10-26-2019, 04:09 PM

Hallo,

there is a mechanical tool that prevents to push down the starter motor button if it is forgotten to set the ignition to "late". What's, please, is the name of this tool, so I can search it?

Thank you very much!

Patrick L. · 10-26-2019, 04:43 PM

The only such tool I'm aware of is a 'pre-flight- post-flight checklist'.

Blue-Truck-Nut · 10-26-2019, 04:56 PM

There was a Gizmo advertised at one time that actually used the spark lever to engage the starter. But I've never heard of what you are referring too. But just because I've never seen it doesn't mean anything!

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rotorwrench · 10-26-2019, 06:29 PM

There may have been aftermarket gizmos available. Folks came up with all sorts of inventions to sell to Ford owners.

Purdy Swoft · 10-26-2019, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue-Truck-Nut

There was a Gizmo advertised at one time that actually used the spark lever to engage the starter. But I've never heard of what you are referring too. But just because I've never seen it doesn't mean anything!

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I think that the gizmo that you refer to

was the Fulton up start .

J Franklin · 10-26-2019, 08:52 PM

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It is called up-start. here is a link to it from Bratton's.

https://www.brattons.com/catalogsear...lt/?q=up-start

Blue-Truck-Nut · 10-26-2019, 09:24 PM

The Up Start is pretty close, but the device I'm remembering mounted under the hood, and had a bell crank like contraption.

When the spark rod was moved to full retard it would engage the starter.

Not exactly what the OP was looking for, but I think we are getting closer!!

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J Franklin · 10-26-2019, 09:56 PM

I think the up-start also is linked to the spark lever on the column.

Blue-Truck-Nut · 10-26-2019, 09:59 PM

The one from brattons appears to be a rod with a knob that runs up the column. Not completely sure.

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J Franklin · 10-26-2019, 11:23 PM

Well this one looks more like it!
https://www.brattons.com/sparky-start-system.html

Blue-Truck-Nut · 10-26-2019, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Franklin

Well this one looks more like it!
https://www.brattons.com/sparky-start-system.html

Bam! You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!

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Patrick L. · 10-27-2019, 06:28 AM

Hmm, that contraption is interesting. So those of us that retard our spark at shutdown will now have to put up with the starter spinning all night. [smiley face]

Railcarmover · 10-27-2019, 07:51 AM

It was for women,so they don't rip a stocking or scuff a shoe toeing the starter button..

chrs1961815 · 10-27-2019, 08:41 AM

Check out the Sparky Start Thread.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267120

Werner · 10-27-2019, 03:48 PM

Hallo,

Patrick has right. But sometimes it happens that the late adjustment is forgotten. -

It is a mechanism that blocks the foot starter button to push, if the ignition lever is on "early".

31 Vicky · 10-27-2019, 08:54 PM

Or always retard the spark when returning to idle before shutting off.

Werner · 10-28-2019, 02:34 AM

That's all right, and so I do. Almost always.

But it is sometimes forgotten. With my Citroen Traction the retard was forgotten. The startermotor has received such a head stroke that the claw is broken.

Therefore, a "early ignition lock" may be useful, I think.

Patrick L. · 10-28-2019, 05:47 AM

I can't find your last post. It must have been pulled.

10-26-2019, 04:09 PM	#1
Werner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany, near Aachen Posts: 1,194	Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Hallo, there is a mechanical tool that prevents to push down the starter motor button if it is forgotten to set the ignition to "late". What's, please, is the name of this tool, so I can search it? Thank you very much! __________________ Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland, Werner Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928 Citroen 11 CV, 1947 Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version

10-26-2019, 04:43 PM	#2
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' The only such tool I'm aware of is a 'pre-flight- post-flight checklist'.

10-26-2019, 04:56 PM	#3
Blue-Truck-Nut Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Central New Mexico Posts: 83	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' There was a Gizmo advertised at one time that actually used the spark lever to engage the starter. But I've never heard of what you are referring too. But just because I've never seen it doesn't mean anything! Sent from my E6810 using Tapatalk

10-26-2019, 06:29 PM	#4
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 17,410	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' There may have been aftermarket gizmos available. Folks came up with all sorts of inventions to sell to Ford owners. Last edited by rotorwrench; 10-27-2019 at 08:12 AM.

10-26-2019, 08:52 PM	#6
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,370	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) It is called up-start. here is a link to it from Bratton's. https://www.brattons.com/catalogsear...lt/?q=up-start

10-26-2019, 09:24 PM	#7
Blue-Truck-Nut Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Central New Mexico Posts: 83	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' The Up Start is pretty close, but the device I'm remembering mounted under the hood, and had a bell crank like contraption. When the spark rod was moved to full retard it would engage the starter. Not exactly what the OP was looking for, but I think we are getting closer!! Sent from my E6810 using Tapatalk

10-26-2019, 09:56 PM	#8
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,370	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' I think the up-start also is linked to the spark lever on the column.

10-26-2019, 09:59 PM	#9
Blue-Truck-Nut Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Central New Mexico Posts: 83	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' The one from brattons appears to be a rod with a knob that runs up the column. Not completely sure. Sent from my E6810 using Tapatalk

10-26-2019, 11:23 PM	#10
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,370	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Well this one looks more like it! https://www.brattons.com/sparky-start-system.html

10-27-2019, 06:28 AM	#12
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Hmm, that contraption is interesting. So those of us that retard our spark at shutdown will now have to put up with the starter spinning all night. [smiley face]

10-27-2019, 07:51 AM	#13
Railcarmover BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,262	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' It was for women,so they don't rip a stocking or scuff a shoe toeing the starter button..

10-27-2019, 08:41 AM	#14
chrs1961815 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Spring Grove, Illinois Posts: 1,371	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Check out the Sparky Start Thread. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267120 __________________ "The more things change, the more they stay the same."

10-27-2019, 03:48 PM	#15
Werner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany, near Aachen Posts: 1,194	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Hallo, Patrick has right. But sometimes it happens that the late adjustment is forgotten. - It is a mechanism that blocks the foot starter button to push, if the ignition lever is on "early". __________________ Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland, Werner Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928 Citroen 11 CV, 1947 Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version

10-27-2019, 08:54 PM	#16
31 Vicky Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 106	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' Or always retard the spark when returning to idle before shutting off.

10-28-2019, 05:47 AM	#18
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Mechanic lock starter motor if 'pre-ignition' I can't find your last post. It must have been pulled.