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Old 12-30-2016, 10:28 AM   #1
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I would like to thank you for a JOB WELL DONE in compiling and updating our Model A/AA "bible" of Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards.

Now each and every one of you can sit back and relax untill the next go-around in 10-15 years from now.

Each section was masterfully researched and will give us a better idea of the correct assembly and history of how the Model A/AA Ford all came about.

I am sure that other avenues and more research will be done in the future, more questions will arise, but until they do, each and every one of you can be assured that your contribution and hard work will NOT go unnoticed....It is well worth the money!

All went together perfectly!

GREAT JOB AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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X3. Thanks for all the long hours and head scratching.
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I would like to thank you for a JOB WELL DONE in compiling and updating our Model A/AA "bible" of Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards.

Now each and every one of you can sit back and relax untill the next go-around in 10-15 years from now.

Each section was masterfully researched and will give us a better idea of the correct assembly and history of how the Model A/AA Ford all came about.

I am sure that other avenues and more research will be done in the future, more questions will arise, but until they do, each and every one of you can be assured that your contribution and hard work will NOT go unnoticed....It is well worth the money!

All went together perfectly!

GREAT JOB AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Pluck
Right on Steve!

What some people may not realize or think about is this,..when the next revision takes place in 20??, the material for that is being compiled and
RESEARCHED now....it never stops!
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Old 12-30-2016, 11:51 AM   #5
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Steve,
I agree with and thank all the folks who do this time consuming research for the rest of us. Also, give yourself a huge pat on the back for all that you do for the hobby.
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Not only the chairpersons but all the people that worked on the committees or research projects. The chairpersons are only as good as the expertise they surround themselves with. Wayne.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:27 PM   #7
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With the much anticipated hoopla regarding the new 'Revisions' of the MARC/MAFCA Restoration Guidelines & Judging Standards, and knowing what an already staggering accumulation of information about the Ford Model A previous 'Standards' had in them - I was curious as to what other antique car clubs had for their equivalent restoration standard guidelines.

I found that national marque clubs for older antiques and classics like AACA, CCCA, MTFCA, Buick, Chevrolet, Chrysler Corp., etc. had nothing close to the overwhelming body of detailed information that has been accumulated by the dedicated afficianados of the Ford Model A. What we have in this body of accumulated facts about our beloved Model A is truly staggering and monumental !

As has been said, A great round of thanks and applause is due these tireless and dedicated volunteers that have given so much of their lives to the love of the hobby, and to future generations of Model A owners.

Hip, Hip, Hooray ! ! !
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[QUOTE I was curious as to what other antique car clubs had for their equivalent restoration standard guidelines.][/QUOTE]

Check out the judging sheets for SAAC and MCA (Shelby and Mustangs)

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Old 12-30-2016, 04:17 PM   #9
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I don't know of any other car make even close to what we have for the Model A.

I was hoping for something similar for Studebaker, but nothing so far.
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With the much anticipated hoopla regarding the new 'Revisions' of the MARC/MAFCA Restoration Guidelines & Judging Standards, and knowing what an already staggering accumulation of information about the Ford Model A previous 'Standards' had in them - I was curious as to what other antique car clubs had for their equivalent restoration standard guidelines.

I found that national marque clubs for older antiques and classics like AACA, CCCA, MTFCA, Buick, Chevrolet, Chrysler Corp., etc. had nothing close to the overwhelming body of detailed information that has been accumulated by the dedicated afficianados of the Ford Model A. What we have in this body of accumulated facts about our beloved Model A is truly staggering and monumental !

As has been said, A great round of thanks and applause is due these tireless and dedicated volunteers that have given so much of their lives to the love of the hobby, and to future generations of Model A owners.

Hip, Hip, Hooray ! ! !
Very well said Doug. Wayne
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[QUOTE=Tom Wesenberg;1406768]I don't know of any other car make even close to what we have for the Model A.


And still the complainers will come forward as they always do. Wayne
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:56 PM   #12
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Terry, post # 7: " . . . SAAC and MCA (Shelby and Mustangs)"
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Terry, while both the Shelby and the Mustang are highly regarded marques, most antique car hobbyists do not think of the Shelby or the Mustang as being an antique auto. As such I deliberately omitted them and other post 1945 cars when forming my remarks.
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Terry, while both the Shelby and the Mustang are highly regarded marques, most antique car hobbyists do not think of the Shelby or the Mustang as being an antique auto. As such I deliberately omitted them and other post 1945 cars when forming my remarks.
While I can appreciate that I must point out that when MAFCA and MARC were started the Model A's were anywhere from 22-27 years old ( MAFCA 1957 and MARC 1953) some of the early mustangs and shelbys that I was referring to are 46 to 53 model years old.
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Old 12-30-2016, 11:28 PM   #14
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I think the AACA has 8 pages on what to look for on the Model A.


I just need to figure out how/when to get our new one in searchable PDF form.
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TerryO, Post # 10 -

Terry, I fully understand that you think that Shelbys and Mustangs are Antique Automobiles, And I could be wrong; so I would suggest that you ask members of the Horseless Carriage Club of America, and the Antique Automobile Club of America, and the Model T Ford Club of America - ask their members if THEY think that Shelbys and Mustangs are 'Antique Automobiles'. I think most would agree with me.
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Terry, I fully understand that you think that Shelbys and Mustangs are Antique Automobiles, And I could be wrong; so I would suggest that you ask members of the Horseless Carriage Club of America, and the Antique Automobile Club of America, and the Model T Ford Club of America - ask their members if THEY think that Shelbys and Mustangs are 'Antique Automobiles'. I think most would agree with me.
Im not looking to further hijack the context of what this thread was intended for but I wanted to respond to a couple posts. Maybe it would have been more appropriate for a separate topic.

AACA.-- ANTIQUE AUTOMOBIE CLIB OF AMERICA

As stated in the judging guidelines a vehicle that the organization recognizes and is at least 25 years and older is recognized as an antique vehicle.
http://www.aaca.org/images/meet_broc...Guidelines.pdf

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I would like to thank you for a JOB WELL DONE in compiling and updating our Model A/AA "bible" of Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards.

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I would like to thank you and the others that did the research that went into the book. Reading the contributors listed showed more then just a few names that post here on the barn.

So again, thank you all that made this book possible.
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Mike do you have a copy of the AACA guide for the model a love to read what they are looking for? Thanks in advance
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It's sad to read the names of rg&js contributors that we have lost. Rip
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AACA.-- ANTIQUE AUTOMOBIE CLIB OF AMERICA

As stated in the judging guidelines a vehicle that the organization recognizes and is at least 25 years and older is recognized as an antique vehicle.
http://www.aaca.org/images/meet_broc...Guidelines.pdf
It was not my intention to start an argument about what is widely considered an antique auto. My apologies for doing so. I have a respect for all marques of old antique cars but have a special love for the Model A. That is why I have 2 of them. ;-) I also think the Judging Standards Committee has done a great job.

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