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Bill Cal. · 12-28-2015, 01:18 PM

I live in Calif. and am looking at a running Model A for sale from a car dealer in Oregon without a title. They say it comes with a Bill of Sale but no title. I checked with DMV and they say I will not be able to register it in Cal. without a title. Anyone have any ideas around this? Thanks, Bill

Bob C · 12-28-2015, 01:22 PM

This link may have some useful information.
http://www.semasan.com/semaga/TagTitleToolbox_CA.pdf

Bob

redmodelt · 12-28-2015, 01:40 PM

A dealer can not sell a car in Oregon with out a title. It is just that simple. The dealer needs to get a title for the car with matching numbers before they can sell it. I did work for a car (new/used) here in Oregon. Even buying from a privet party, they need to have a title in order to sell a car to be legal.

Rowdy · 12-28-2015, 02:32 PM

It is possible to get a title with just a bill of sale, but it would be likely that you would have to get a third party involved. This would have to be someone you trust in a state that has a bonded title option and the numbers would have to be inspectable and match the numbers on the bill of sale. Some states want to inspect the engine number and others want to inspect the chassis number. This whole process with the logistics would be a PIA, so you could likely be a huge bargaining chip to really undercut the selling price. Rod

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-28-2015, 02:40 PM

Remember, all that B.S. is to protect us from buying STOLEN CARS.
Bill W.

Vin-tin · 12-28-2015, 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Cal.

I live in Calif. and am looking at a running Model A for sale from a car dealer in Oregon without a title. They say it comes with a Bill of Sale but no title. I checked with DMV and they say I will not be able to register it in Cal. without a title. Anyone have any ideas around this? Thanks, Bill

It's not worth the hassle. There's lots of Model A's out there for sale. Just find another one that has a title.
Plus, I've never trusted dealers. They have one thing in mind and that's money in their pocket, not in your best interest.

Patrick L. · 12-28-2015, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Cal.

I live in Calif. and am looking at a running Model A for sale from a car dealer in Oregon without a title. They say it comes with a Bill of Sale but no title. I checked with DMV and they say I will not be able to register it in Cal. without a title. Anyone have any ideas around this? Thanks, Bill

I think I would check with someone else at your DMV. As with most government agencies if you ask 3 different people the same question you're apt to get 3 different answers. Talk with a boss in a state office [ not county]. Most states have an VIN/ serial number inspection agency to handle such problems.

Charlie Stephens · 12-28-2015, 02:44 PM

Call the DMV back and ask them about getting a "bonded title". By the way, did the dealer in Oregon explain why the vehicle did not have a title? It might help to know why there is no title when you call the DMV. Having this information might suggest other solutions, or course if he stole it there are probably not other solutions available. I agree with Bill's comment in post #5.

Charlie Stephens

C26Pinelake · 12-28-2015, 02:57 PM

Demand the title or nullify the deal! If he wants to sell bad enough the title will appear! Wayne[/B]

redmodelt · 12-28-2015, 03:07 PM

Let me REPEAT a car dealer in OREGON can not sell a car WITHOUT A TITLE. Does not matter if it's a Model A, T or what not.

12-28-2015, 01:18 PM	#1
Bill Cal. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 175	is it possible? I live in Calif. and am looking at a running Model A for sale from a car dealer in Oregon without a title. They say it comes with a Bill of Sale but no title. I checked with DMV and they say I will not be able to register it in Cal. without a title. Anyone have any ideas around this? Thanks, Bill

12-28-2015, 01:22 PM	#2
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,360	Re: is it possible? This link may have some useful information. http://www.semasan.com/semaga/TagTitleToolbox_CA.pdf Bob

12-28-2015, 01:40 PM	#3
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,410	Re: is it possible? A dealer can not sell a car in Oregon with out a title. It is just that simple. The dealer needs to get a title for the car with matching numbers before they can sell it. I did work for a car (new/used) here in Oregon. Even buying from a privet party, they need to have a title in order to sell a car to be legal.

12-28-2015, 02:32 PM	#4
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: is it possible? It is possible to get a title with just a bill of sale, but it would be likely that you would have to get a third party involved. This would have to be someone you trust in a state that has a bonded title option and the numbers would have to be inspectable and match the numbers on the bill of sale. Some states want to inspect the engine number and others want to inspect the chassis number. This whole process with the logistics would be a PIA, so you could likely be a huge bargaining chip to really undercut the selling price. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

12-28-2015, 02:44 PM	#8
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,305	Re: is it possible? Call the DMV back and ask them about getting a "bonded title". By the way, did the dealer in Oregon explain why the vehicle did not have a title? It might help to know why there is no title when you call the DMV. Having this information might suggest other solutions, or course if he stole it there are probably not other solutions available. I agree with Bill's comment in post #5. Charlie Stephens Last edited by Charlie Stephens; 12-28-2015 at 02:53 PM.

12-28-2015, 02:40 PM	#5
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: is it possible? Remember, all that B.S. is to protect us from buying STOLEN CARS. Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

12-28-2015, 02:57 PM	#9
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: is it possible? Demand the title or nullify the deal! If he wants to sell bad enough the title will appear! Wayne[/B]

12-28-2015, 03:07 PM	#10
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,410	Re: is it possible? Let me REPEAT a car dealer in OREGON can not sell a car WITHOUT A TITLE. Does not matter if it's a Model A, T or what not.