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Hgiljr · 05-25-2014, 01:32 PM

Good day everyone... Hope you all are having a great Memorial Day weekend. I came across a Model A Victoria and I am curious to know if anyone knows approximately how many of these models are still in existent? I know they were limited in production so I can guess they are not many rolling around. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks

P.S. · 05-25-2014, 02:02 PM

They are not very rare, there are plenty around. However, there are far fewer of them than Tudors or Fordors.

FL&WVMIKE · 05-25-2014, 02:39 PM

They seem to bring a premium price, depending on condition, of course.
MIKE (mikeburch)

Steve Plucker · 05-25-2014, 03:36 PM

Is it a 1930 or 1931?

Production amounts for the Victoria...Not sure how many survived.

1930:

USA.....6306
Foriegn.....0
Canada...141
TOTAL...6447

1931:

USA.....33906
Foriegn..828
Canada..1096
TOTAL..35830

1932:

USA....1
Foreign...130
Canada...161
TOTAL...292

Pluck

Vern · 05-25-2014, 06:44 PM

Awhile back a friend & I did this same mental exercise. We figured there are about 250 members of the Victoria Association world wide, and assumed they each had one. We also assumed the VA accounted for maybe 10% of the remaining Vics, which gave us 2500. Now we figured there must be that many hidden in barns, turned into rat-rods and such leading to 5000. With a production of just over 42 thousand that gives a survival rate of over 11%.
Your figures will vary, it's all academic.
Vern Schwebke, president
International Model A Victoria Association

Ken Anderson · 05-25-2014, 10:29 PM

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Well... I know that I have one of them.

Bick in New Zealand · 05-25-2014, 11:52 PM

With a production of just over 42 thousand that gives a survival rate of over 11%.

Interesting, my body number is 43,230.

Vern · 05-26-2014, 12:51 AM

I think Justin means his count of Victorias produced differs from the 42,569 figure that Steve quoted, not the body number of his car.

Bick in New Zealand · 05-26-2014, 02:38 AM

No, I agree with Steve's figures, just saying my body was pretty much at the end, being the 42,230 produced.

Mike V. Florida · 05-26-2014, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bick in New Zealand

No, I agree with Steve's figures, just saying my body was pretty much at the end, being the 42,230 produced.

Do you have a picture of the body tag?

Bick in New Zealand · 05-26-2014, 05:31 AM

Yes

Hgiljr · 05-27-2014, 07:41 AM

Thanks everyone for the info.

Bob Bidonde · 05-27-2014, 08:54 AM

I was keeping records for the International Victoria Association back in the 1980s, and the best estimate I could make then was there were about 320 known 190As in existence and this number included basket cases and a few hot rods. The basis for the 320 were information forms filled-out by Association members, plus cars that I came across.

I suspect there are more 190As on the planet, and an uneducated guess would be about 400 survivors in total.

The 190A Victoria Coupe is a rare Ford with a distinct and in many ways unique body design. The 190A does have some features common to the 400A Convertible Sedan and 180A Deluxe Phaeton.

Seth Swoboda · 05-27-2014, 02:23 PM

I have one. So that makes at least 3 from this thread alone.

Hgiljr · 05-27-2014, 02:36 PM

Did the Victoria come with the same engine as the other model a's or with more HP?

Tom Wesenberg · 05-27-2014, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hgiljr

Did the Victoria come with the same engine as the other model a's or with more HP?

Same engine for all models.

Jason in TX · 05-27-2014, 03:01 PM

Here's mine!

acstep · 05-27-2014, 06:47 PM

I have 2, 1 canadian and 1 us

CA Victoria · 05-27-2014, 11:30 PM

Vern, if you are still reading..... have you seen production numbers for the leatherback vs. steelback?

Roadster62 · 05-28-2014, 12:35 AM

There is an older restored one in the HAMB right now in the classified section.

05-25-2014, 01:32 PM	#1
Hgiljr Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 32	Model A Victoria Good day everyone... Hope you all are having a great Memorial Day weekend. I came across a Model A Victoria and I am curious to know if anyone knows approximately how many of these models are still in existent? I know they were limited in production so I can guess they are not many rolling around. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks

05-25-2014, 02:02 PM	#2
P.S. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hazzard County Posts: 1,921	Re: Model A Victoria They are not very rare, there are plenty around. However, there are far fewer of them than Tudors or Fordors.

05-25-2014, 02:39 PM	#3
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,449	Re: Model A Victoria They seem to bring a premium price, depending on condition, of course. MIKE (mikeburch)

05-25-2014, 03:36 PM	#4
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Model A Victoria Is it a 1930 or 1931? Production amounts for the Victoria...Not sure how many survived. 1930: USA.....6306 Foriegn.....0 Canada...141 TOTAL...6447 1931: USA.....33906 Foriegn..828 Canada..1096 TOTAL..35830 1932: USA....1 Foreign...130 Canada...161 TOTAL...292 Pluck

05-25-2014, 06:44 PM	#5
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spring Valley Calif. Posts: 615	Re: Model A Victoria Awhile back a friend & I did this same mental exercise. We figured there are about 250 members of the Victoria Association world wide, and assumed they each had one. We also assumed the VA accounted for maybe 10% of the remaining Vics, which gave us 2500. Now we figured there must be that many hidden in barns, turned into rat-rods and such leading to 5000. With a production of just over 42 thousand that gives a survival rate of over 11%. Your figures will vary, it's all academic. Vern Schwebke, president International Model A Victoria Association

05-25-2014, 10:29 PM	#6
Ken Anderson Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Panama City, Florida Posts: 54	Re: Model A Victoria Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Well... I know that I have one of them.

05-25-2014, 11:52 PM	#7
Bick in New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier New Zealand Posts: 945	Re: Model A Victoria With a production of just over 42 thousand that gives a survival rate of over 11%. Interesting, my body number is 43,230. __________________ 1928 Roadster (CA67) 1931 Deluxe Coupe RHD 1931 Victoria RHD Model A's don't leak oil they just mark their territory.

05-26-2014, 12:51 AM	#8
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spring Valley Calif. Posts: 615	Re: Model A Victoria I think Justin means his count of Victorias produced differs from the 42,569 figure that Steve quoted, not the body number of his car.

05-26-2014, 02:38 AM	#9
Bick in New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier New Zealand Posts: 945	Re: Model A Victoria No, I agree with Steve's figures, just saying my body was pretty much at the end, being the 42,230 produced. __________________ 1928 Roadster (CA67) 1931 Deluxe Coupe RHD 1931 Victoria RHD Model A's don't leak oil they just mark their territory.

05-27-2014, 07:41 AM	#12
Hgiljr Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 32	Re: Model A Victoria Thanks everyone for the info.

05-27-2014, 08:54 AM	#13
Bob Bidonde Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,112	Re: Model A Victoria I was keeping records for the International Victoria Association back in the 1980s, and the best estimate I could make then was there were about 320 known 190As in existence and this number included basket cases and a few hot rods. The basis for the 320 were information forms filled-out by Association members, plus cars that I came across. I suspect there are more 190As on the planet, and an uneducated guess would be about 400 survivors in total. The 190A Victoria Coupe is a rare Ford with a distinct and in many ways unique body design. The 190A does have some features common to the 400A Convertible Sedan and 180A Deluxe Phaeton. __________________ Bob Bidonde

05-27-2014, 02:23 PM	#14
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 4,079	Re: Model A Victoria I have one. So that makes at least 3 from this thread alone.

05-27-2014, 02:36 PM	#15
Hgiljr Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 32	Re: Model A Victoria Did the Victoria come with the same engine as the other model a's or with more HP?

05-27-2014, 03:01 PM	#17
Jason in TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ Posts: 2,047	Re: Model A Victoria Here's mine! __________________ -------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC

05-27-2014, 06:47 PM	#18
acstep Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: rancho murieta, ca Posts: 9	Re: Model A Victoria I have 2, 1 canadian and 1 us

05-27-2014, 11:30 PM	#19
CA Victoria Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,216	Re: Model A Victoria Vern, if you are still reading..... have you seen production numbers for the leatherback vs. steelback? __________________ Tim Downtown, Ca

05-28-2014, 12:35 AM	#20
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,449	Re: Model A Victoria There is an older restored one in the HAMB right now in the classified section. __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.