Which is the Early 28 tail lamp bracket

[msmaron]

Judging standars say both are for the drum taillight and obsoleted at the end of 28. My question is which is the E28 and which is later. I know they are for my sportcoupe.

[Rowdy]

Looks like you have one from a coupe and one from a fordor. Very simular, but slightly different mounting angles. Rod

[bbrocksr]

The one on the right.
Bill

[msmaron]

Thank you and it's the one on the left is the sport coupe. Right is 28 Fordor

[d.j. moordigian]

Originally Posted by msmaron

Judging standars say both are for the drum taillight and obsoleted at the end of 28. My question is which is the E28 and which is later. I know they are for my sportcoupe.

I also wondered about that. I kinda figured that the backs could tell
a story. The ones I've seen with the counter bores would fit cars
with "D nuts" and the flat face ones were on flat sheet metal.
Make sense?

[Fred]

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Originally Posted by d.j. moordigian

I also wondered about that. I kinda figured that the backs could tell
a story. The ones I've seen with the counter bores would fit cars
with "D nuts" and the flat face ones were on flat sheet metal.
Make sense?

D.J. The one on my 28 Coupe is just like the one on the right in picture, But it also has the back Counter bores as the one on the left.. I think its the one on the right for 28 coupe & Roadsters, but the one shown may be a later made one or an after market one..

[Ron in Quincy]

The one on the right is the early one for Coupe and Roadster; it is formed with a "T" at the top of the forging.
The one on the left is the later style for Coupe and Roadster.
Both are for mounting the Drum Taillight.

Ron

[d.j. moordigian]

Okay.....two questions.

1. What are the part numbers?
2. The size(measurements) match the JS? They look a lot
different in size.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by msmaron

Thank you and it's the one on the left is the sport coupe. Right is 28 Fordor

Neither one is for a Fordor..

[Ron in Quincy]

A-13470......Taillight and license bracket support (Rdstr.,Coupe, Sport Coupe..... 1928

A-13473......Taillight and license bracket support (Phaeton, Tudor, Fordor...........1928

[d.j. moordigian]

Originally Posted by Fred

Neither one is for a Fordor..

Yes it could....I thought I had the correct one for my car (A-13470-B)..
..But it turned out to be an A-13468 and it's smooth, no counter
bores.

[Dan Partain]

Hey Guys,

The A-13470 goes on the AA's and narrow bed pickups, it must be another number, maybe A-13471-AR instead?

[Ron in Quincy]

The part numbers I listed came from " Parts Price List Dated January 1, 1928".

A-13470 bracket (shown on the right of photo) is the same type that was on my Sport Coupe A566.
The bracket (shown on the left of photo) is the same as the bracket on my February 1929 Roadster which has a 1928 drum taillight and 1928 fluted head lights.

There are changes that took place on the " Bracket Supports " by the time the " Parts Price List dated October 1,1928 " came out :

A-13468.......Tail light and license bracket support- Fordor .......1928

A-13470-A ...Tail light and license bracket support - Pickup- A Panel Delivery- Bus .........1928

A-13470-B....Tail light and license bracket support (Rdstr., Coupe, Sport Coupe, Business Coupe)........1928

A-13473-A....Tail light and license bracket support (Phaeton, Tudor )......1928

NOTE....All the above support brackets take 3ea. body bolts and washers.

Ron

[Dan Partain]

Hi Ron,

There must have been some kind of change in part numbers between 1928 and 1931, the '31 parts list shows a picture of this one. Years ago, probably in the 70's I ordered a repro tail light bracket for my 82-A and received one similar to the photos at the top of the page which I sent back. I think now that may be due to the same part number change along the line somewhere. You can also see in the first photo an old, and really bad repro 82-A bracket.

[d.j. moordigian]

Originally Posted by Dan Partain

Hey Guys,

The A-13470 goes on the AA's and narrow bed pickups, it must be another number, maybe A-13471-AR instead?

Sorry about that Dan.....I thought you would have known about the
double A-13470.......the other is on the first page.

This should be easy, if Mark would post the part numbers or sizes,....
....or am I missing something?

*the 4th and 5th photo are both the same....and I can't figure out how to
delete one of them*

[msmaron]

SO is the consensus then that THIS is the E28 Sport Coupe Bracket

[msmaron]

And THIS is the later 28 , early 29 bracket??

[d.j. moordigian]

Originally Posted by d.j. moordigian

Okay.....two questions.

1. What are the part numbers?
2. The size(measurements) match the JS? They look a lot
different in size.

Mark....this is why I posted this.....what is the part# on the
bracket? Also, does it match the size?

[Marco Tahtaras]

Originally Posted by msmaron

SO is the consensus then that THIS is the E28 Sport Coupe Bracket

To me the drawings in the Standards are very clear. Which drawing does it look like to you?

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by Marco Tahtaras

To me the drawings in the Standards are very clear. Which drawing does it look like to you?

Actually they were not clear to Ron Ehrenhofer and my self or explained clearly with the Dotted line in the drawing, that is why we posted the question here. For much better clarity...