The Ford Barn

firetique57 · 01-12-2014, 04:09 PM

I was taking the rear brake assemblies off to go through them before putting the rearend back under my truck. On inspection of the over all assembly here's what in saw. This is the left rear perch. Do I need to get it welded or can I use some J B Weld?

ctvpa · 01-12-2014, 04:48 PM

Very hard to weld cast. You have to heat the whole piece in sand, and get it hot, 400.

Now think real hard; you, your family, your friends & loved ones, are going to be going 40-50 miles per hour down a highway in this. You're willing to have the piece holding the whole thing together to be some plastic out of a tube?

I would defer to an expert welder, not some guy like me with a MIG. But also someone with experience in 80 year old metal restoration.

Bob C · 01-12-2014, 05:04 PM

The thread at this link addresses your problem. Also go to the link in post 19,
it shows your exact problem. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ighlight=perch

Bob

Pete · 01-12-2014, 05:30 PM

It's forged 3140 steel and can be TIG welded easily.

James Rogers · 01-12-2014, 08:12 PM

Easy fix.

firetique57 · 01-13-2014, 12:02 AM

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Thanks everyone! I have talked to James and it looks like I'll be taking a trip to his neck of the woods very soon!

larrys40 · 01-13-2014, 12:10 AM

I agree with James. Easy fix . I'm sure he will get you fixed up well
Larry s

tbirdtbird · 01-13-2014, 12:12 AM

agree it is forged and can be TIGed or MIGed nicely. I do it all the time. If cast they would have broke apart long ago...

dave in australia · 01-13-2014, 12:53 AM

They are definitely forged as the perch is originally welded from the factory. Weld, ream, then finish hone to size, good to go.

01-12-2014, 04:48 PM	#2
ctvpa Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 479	Re: Spring perch problem Very hard to weld cast. You have to heat the whole piece in sand, and get it hot, 400. Now think real hard; you, your family, your friends & loved ones, are going to be going 40-50 miles per hour down a highway in this. You're willing to have the piece holding the whole thing together to be some plastic out of a tube? I would defer to an expert welder, not some guy like me with a MIG. But also someone with experience in 80 year old metal restoration.

01-12-2014, 05:04 PM	#3
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,356	Re: Spring perch problem The thread at this link addresses your problem. Also go to the link in post 19, it shows your exact problem. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ighlight=perch Bob

01-12-2014, 05:30 PM	#4
Pete BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,423	Re: Spring perch problem It's forged 3140 steel and can be TIG welded easily.

01-12-2014, 08:12 PM	#5
James Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Asheville,NC Posts: 3,104	Re: Spring perch problem Easy fix. __________________ http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com/

01-13-2014, 12:02 AM	#6
firetique57 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Walkertown, NC Posts: 105	Re: Spring perch problem Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks everyone! I have talked to James and it looks like I'll be taking a trip to his neck of the woods very soon!

01-13-2014, 12:10 AM	#7
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 2,032	Re: Spring perch problem I agree with James. Easy fix . I'm sure he will get you fixed up well Larry s

01-13-2014, 12:12 AM	#8
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Spring perch problem agree it is forged and can be TIGed or MIGed nicely. I do it all the time. If cast they would have broke apart long ago... __________________ '31 180A

01-13-2014, 12:53 AM	#9
dave in australia Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,241	Re: Spring perch problem They are definitely forged as the perch is originally welded from the factory. Weld, ream, then finish hone to size, good to go.