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badbones · 01-16-2012, 09:37 PM

I'm going to replace both heavy worn rear tracks on my 29 Tudor. It seems simple enough to grind off the old rivets but have two questions.

I plan on buying the new track from snyders unless there are better ones out there.

I know I have to red hot the new rivets but What technique to get the mushroom head? Is there a special tool or just smack it to flatten it out?

Thanks

CA Victoria · 01-16-2012, 09:59 PM

I used an old punch. I ground the end flat and then used a large drill bit and drill press to create a counter sink in the end. Not just like Henry's, but worked well.

Fred K-OR · 01-16-2012, 10:12 PM

I used a "ball pein" hammer. Takes a little work but you can get them round like they need to be.

Jim Parker Toronto · 01-16-2012, 10:34 PM

Heated bright red, then air hammered down with concave bit.

badbones · 01-16-2012, 11:28 PM

Jim

I like your idea there. Is this what your talking about?

http://www.amazon.com/K-Tool-Interna...6774366&sr=1-2

Tim B. · 01-17-2012, 06:12 AM

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Drilled center of heads out with a drill press and finished with a punch. Installed like Jim did. Right tool on link wrong size I ended up using a 3/16 inch and worked fine. Rivet end is 1/4" but found not enough material to fill the tool cavity of a 1/4" tool & draw rivet tight. Had to Finish with a ball peen hammer. Get a beehive spring from NAPA or other auto house for your air gun to hold the tool. If you're not in a hurry check aircraft tool houses online for tool & Spring less expensive since they're not specialty tools for them. Tim

Aerocraft · 01-17-2012, 08:49 AM

For others that need this work done, it is very likely that someone in your local car club, especially an aircraft mechanic, has the equipment that you need. It is rather expensive to buy the gun and set just for four rivits. The rivits do need to be driven while the shank of the rivet is red hot.

It has been my experience that some of the aftermarket parts do not fix perfectly so pay close attention to the fit of the parts before you drive the rivits.

If you are close to the Chicago area, bring them to my shop and I'll install them for free but it does take two people. I do expect that the owner will help.

Gar Williams

JBR · 01-17-2012, 09:05 AM

How about these:
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/2423 or

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/2422

01-16-2012, 09:37 PM	#1
badbones Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 29	Rear brake track rivet I'm going to replace both heavy worn rear tracks on my 29 Tudor. It seems simple enough to grind off the old rivets but have two questions. I plan on buying the new track from snyders unless there are better ones out there. I know I have to red hot the new rivets but What technique to get the mushroom head? Is there a special tool or just smack it to flatten it out? Thanks

01-16-2012, 09:59 PM	#2
CA Victoria Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,216	Re: Rear brake track rivet I used an old punch. I ground the end flat and then used a large drill bit and drill press to create a counter sink in the end. Not just like Henry's, but worked well. __________________ Tim Downtown, Ca

01-16-2012, 10:12 PM	#3
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: Rear brake track rivet I used a "ball pein" hammer. Takes a little work but you can get them round like they need to be. __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

01-16-2012, 10:34 PM	#4
Jim Parker Toronto Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,289	Re: Rear brake track rivet Heated bright red, then air hammered down with concave bit.

01-16-2012, 11:28 PM	#5
badbones Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 29	Re: Rear brake track rivet Jim I like your idea there. Is this what your talking about? http://www.amazon.com/K-Tool-Interna...6774366&sr=1-2

01-17-2012, 06:12 AM	#6
Tim B. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 162	Re: Rear brake track rivet Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Drilled center of heads out with a drill press and finished with a punch. Installed like Jim did. Right tool on link wrong size I ended up using a 3/16 inch and worked fine. Rivet end is 1/4" but found not enough material to fill the tool cavity of a 1/4" tool & draw rivet tight. Had to Finish with a ball peen hammer. Get a beehive spring from NAPA or other auto house for your air gun to hold the tool. If you're not in a hurry check aircraft tool houses online for tool & Spring less expensive since they're not specialty tools for them. Tim

01-17-2012, 08:49 AM	#7
Aerocraft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,387	Re: Rear brake track rivet For others that need this work done, it is very likely that someone in your local car club, especially an aircraft mechanic, has the equipment that you need. It is rather expensive to buy the gun and set just for four rivits. The rivits do need to be driven while the shank of the rivet is red hot. It has been my experience that some of the aftermarket parts do not fix perfectly so pay close attention to the fit of the parts before you drive the rivits. If you are close to the Chicago area, bring them to my shop and I'll install them for free but it does take two people. I do expect that the owner will help. Gar Williams

01-17-2012, 09:05 AM	#8
JBR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 346	Re: Rear brake track rivet How about these: http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/2423 or http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/2422