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JohninKuranda · 11-01-2024, 03:09 AM

I have just installed a Float-A-Motor kit on my Model A. Previously I hooked the end of the Brake Pedal Return Spring into the hole in the original engine mount. With the kit, I no longer can do that. I am now a tad perplexed as to what/where I now attach the end of the spring.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
John

johnbuckley · 11-01-2024, 04:22 AM

I wrapped a bit of chain around the engine mount and hooked it onto that.

JayJay · 11-01-2024, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JohninKuranda

I have just installed a Float-A-Motor kit on my Model A. Previously I hooked the end of the Brake Pedal Return Spring into the hole in the original engine mount. With the kit, I no longer can do that. I am now a tad perplexed as to what/where I now attach the end of the spring.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
John

John - I had the same issue with the FaM. I made a small bracket out of (I think) 1/4” x 3/4” flat stock that bolts onto the engine via the flywheel housing bolt. I then used an eyebolt to attach the spring to this bracket.

Big hammer · 11-01-2024, 07:30 AM

It’s time to go through your brake system ! The spring you’re taking about isn’t original or needed if your brakes are working properly. The brake rod return springs need your attention as they pull the brake rods off and in turn all of the linkage to the brake pedal

Bob Bidonde · 11-01-2024, 08:48 AM

This may help you. I bought the spring at Home Depot.

Will N · 11-01-2024, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Big hammer

It’s time to go through your brake system ! The spring you’re taking about isn’t original or needed if your brakes are working properly. The brake rod return springs need your attention as they pull the brake rods off and in turn all of the linkage to the brake pedal

Yup. No return spring needed if your brake system works right.

mass A man · 11-01-2024, 12:15 PM

The "helper" spring does do just that. It "helps" with a more positive return of the brake pedal, even when ALL brake parts have been either replaced or restored. I think Ford knew about a weak return system since Ford went to a different brake rod return spring in later part of '31. The Ford update parts didn't end when the Model T was phased out.

johnbuckley · 11-01-2024, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mass A man

The "helper" spring does do just that. It "helps" with a more positive return of the brake pedal, even when ALL brake parts have been either replaced or restored. I think Ford knew about a weak return system since Ford went to a different brake rod return spring in later part of '31. The Ford update parts didn't end when the Model T was phased out.

I totally agree with you !

Herb Concord Ca · 11-01-2024, 12:53 PM

I drilled a hole through the float a motor bracket to attach the spring.

WHN · 11-01-2024, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbuckley

I totally agree with you !

I also agree. I like the way the brake pedal comes back and bangs against the floor board. You know they are disengaged. No drag, no question.

Enjoy

JayJay · 11-01-2024, 09:25 PM

See #3 above. I heated up the flat bar in the vise and twisted it to the proper angle. A few back-and-forth until I got the proper compound angle. I also had to use a longer bolt in the flywheel housing. I beveled/rounded the back edge of the gizmo to conform to the round clutch housing casting.

Fullraceflathead · 11-02-2024, 08:33 AM

Great idea and photos JayJay, thanks!!!

JohninKuranda · 11-02-2024, 09:46 PM

Many thanks for the responses. I am in the process of making a similar set up as suggested by JayJay!

11-01-2024, 03:09 AM	#1
JohninKuranda Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Kuranda, Queensland Australia Posts: 200	Brake Pedal return spring placement I have just installed a Float-A-Motor kit on my Model A. Previously I hooked the end of the Brake Pedal Return Spring into the hole in the original engine mount. With the kit, I no longer can do that. I am now a tad perplexed as to what/where I now attach the end of the spring. Any suggestions? Thanks John

11-01-2024, 04:22 AM	#2
johnbuckley Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,556	Re: Brake Pedal return spring placement I wrapped a bit of chain around the engine mount and hooked it onto that.

11-01-2024, 07:30 AM	#4
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,430	Re: Brake Pedal return spring placement It’s time to go through your brake system ! The spring you’re taking about isn’t original or needed if your brakes are working properly. The brake rod return springs need your attention as they pull the brake rods off and in turn all of the linkage to the brake pedal __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

11-01-2024, 12:15 PM	#7
mass A man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Danvers, Ma. Posts: 794	Re: Brake Pedal return spring placement The "helper" spring does do just that. It "helps" with a more positive return of the brake pedal, even when ALL brake parts have been either replaced or restored. I think Ford knew about a weak return system since Ford went to a different brake rod return spring in later part of '31. The Ford update parts didn't end when the Model T was phased out.

11-01-2024, 12:53 PM	#9
Herb Concord Ca Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Concord CA Posts: 755	Re: Brake Pedal return spring placement I drilled a hole through the float a motor bracket to attach the spring.

11-02-2024, 08:33 AM	#12
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,684	Re: Brake Pedal return spring placement Great idea and photos JayJay, thanks!!! __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

11-02-2024, 09:46 PM	#13
JohninKuranda Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Kuranda, Queensland Australia Posts: 200	Re: Brake Pedal return spring placement Many thanks for the responses. I am in the process of making a similar set up as suggested by JayJay!