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Model A Canuck · 10-10-2024, 07:43 PM

Hi guys,
I have a question in regards to the early model A pickup trucks.What were the major differences between the 28 and 29's?.I know the later ones were all together different as were the cars

Thanks

al's28/33 · 10-10-2024, 09:23 PM

Pickup chassis were the same as the standard automobile chassis. Same early features thru April like left hand e-brake, early hubs, fluted headlight lenses, hood louver vents, drum tail light, red steering wheel, side mount cut-out on the Powerhouse genny.

did I miss anything ?

Fullraceflathead · 10-11-2024, 11:16 AM

There is a variation on the front fenders the internal radius is much larger on the earlier fender. I have ‘28 roadster pickup and my truck has both late and early front fenders!!!

Bill Cilker · 10-11-2024, 02:45 PM

The 82A (28-29) cabs used 4 different rear panels. You should get the Restoration Guidelines, the will answer most of your questions.

WTSHNN · 10-11-2024, 05:11 PM

How do you define early pickup?

The open cab pickup was introduced in January or February 1928.

Closed cab pickup introduced in mid 1928.

Yes, there was a closed cab used on the AA which was introduced in December 1927. Eventually the same cabs were used on A and AA chassis.

-Tim

katy · 10-11-2024, 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

How do you define early pickup?

I would go with the ones that have the Model T based cabs.

Model A Canuck · 10-11-2024, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katy

I would go with the ones that have the Model T based cabs.

Yes those are the ones i was referring to

Osage Orange · 10-11-2024, 07:16 PM

You can get plenty of upper and lower rear panels through several Model A vendors, but I don't think anyone offers the high-window upper panel or the Ford-stamped upper panel. Those are even more rare than an AA express bed, which is basically unobtainium dodo bird's teeth.

GT40David · 10-12-2024, 02:53 AM

Anyone know the part number for the high window upper cab panel?.

old31 · 10-12-2024, 04:43 AM

Sorry osaga, but I have some original, untouched, unmolested, barn found Dodo birds teeth in gold that I would let go at a very reasonable price.

ndnchf · 10-12-2024, 04:52 AM

Very early pickup beds use what is known as a "Z" bracket that the tail light mounts to, rather than the wood block used later. My truck has this early bed.

Fullraceflathead · 10-12-2024, 07:34 AM

My 28 roadster pickup has that Z bracket also, the engine number dates mine to November '28 but I've never actually seen the frame number on the frame. My gas tank is not stamped with any date on it also.
Mine has one early large radius front fender and one small radius front fender.
The history of my truck can only be traced back to the very late 50s as it was pulled out of the Mojave desert in California back then.

the cooch · 10-12-2024, 09:14 AM

I’m currently building a hot rod big truck….
AA express on modified BB frame
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Bed and frame were rescued from a walnut farm in northern Ca. Three stake pockets, three hinge tailgate with no script, at least 100 feet long… Sectioned to remove damage and fit pickup. BB frame was also enormous. It has a serial number on the drivers side almost under the cab indicating early 32 with 4 cyl. but had no sheet metal. Cab is standard 82A from 29. Section and brackets removed from bed have been saved and stored…

10-10-2024, 07:43 PM	#1
Model A Canuck Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Milton,Ontario,Canada Posts: 160	Early Model A Pickup Differences Hi guys, I have a question in regards to the early model A pickup trucks.What were the major differences between the 28 and 29's?.I know the later ones were all together different as were the cars Thanks

10-10-2024, 09:23 PM	#2
al's28/33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 1,681	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences Pickup chassis were the same as the standard automobile chassis. Same early features thru April like left hand e-brake, early hubs, fluted headlight lenses, hood louver vents, drum tail light, red steering wheel, side mount cut-out on the Powerhouse genny. did I miss anything ? __________________ 1928 "A" Phaeton (mid year with many early features) 1933 "V8" Closed-Cab Pickup Truck (originally a Model B, 4 Cylinder dating to May, 1933)

10-11-2024, 11:16 AM	#3
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,684	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences There is a variation on the front fenders the internal radius is much larger on the earlier fender. I have ‘28 roadster pickup and my truck has both late and early front fenders!!! __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask Last edited by Fullraceflathead; 10-12-2024 at 07:40 AM.

10-11-2024, 02:45 PM	#4
Bill Cilker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 452	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences The 82A (28-29) cabs used 4 different rear panels. You should get the Restoration Guidelines, the will answer most of your questions. __________________ Bill Cilker, Jr Unrestored 190A Victoria 45B, 160B & 189A Victoria Association President

10-11-2024, 05:11 PM	#5
WTSHNN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,489	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences How do you define early pickup? The open cab pickup was introduced in January or February 1928. Closed cab pickup introduced in mid 1928. Yes, there was a closed cab used on the AA which was introduced in December 1927. Eventually the same cabs were used on A and AA chassis. -Tim __________________ No one wants advice - only corroboration. -John Steinbeck

10-11-2024, 07:16 PM	#8
Osage Orange Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Powell Siding (near Cleveland), MO Posts: 93	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences You can get plenty of upper and lower rear panels through several Model A vendors, but I don't think anyone offers the high-window upper panel or the Ford-stamped upper panel. Those are even more rare than an AA express bed, which is basically unobtainium dodo bird's teeth.

10-12-2024, 02:53 AM	#9
GT40David Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 26	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences Anyone know the part number for the high window upper cab panel?.

10-12-2024, 04:43 AM	#10
old31 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,460	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences Sorry osaga, but I have some original, untouched, unmolested, barn found Dodo birds teeth in gold that I would let go at a very reasonable price.

10-12-2024, 04:52 AM	#11
ndnchf Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia Posts: 1,088	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences Very early pickup beds use what is known as a "Z" bracket that the tail light mounts to, rather than the wood block used later. My truck has this early bed.

10-12-2024, 07:34 AM	#12
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,684	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences My 28 roadster pickup has that Z bracket also, the engine number dates mine to November '28 but I've never actually seen the frame number on the frame. My gas tank is not stamped with any date on it also. Mine has one early large radius front fender and one small radius front fender. The history of my truck can only be traced back to the very late 50s as it was pulled out of the Mojave desert in California back then. __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask Last edited by Fullraceflathead; 10-12-2024 at 07:39 AM.

10-12-2024, 09:14 AM	#13
the cooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 106	Re: Early Model A Pickup Differences I’m currently building a hot rod big truck…. AA express on modified BB frame IMG_1340.jpg IMG_1053.jpg IMG_1082.jpg Bed and frame were rescued from a walnut farm in northern Ca. Three stake pockets, three hinge tailgate with no script, at least 100 feet long… Sectioned to remove damage and fit pickup. BB frame was also enormous. It has a serial number on the drivers side almost under the cab indicating early 32 with 4 cyl. but had no sheet metal. Cab is standard 82A from 29. Section and brackets removed from bed have been saved and stored…