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Vanspeed · 03-22-2016, 06:47 AM

I have an early 35 pickup, missing all the garnish screws for the doors, rear window. I am looking at my Macs catalog and they don't call out a specific screw for these. Does anybody know what size they are so I can place an order?

Brendan · 03-22-2016, 06:52 AM

i think they are 6's or 8's

Sid the Maineiac · 03-22-2016, 06:56 AM

Try Roy Nacewicz @ 734-654-9450..I'll bet he can help you and knows just what size you need.A great guy to talk to about old Fords !

51 MERC-CT · 03-22-2016, 07:23 AM

Let's assume that #6 screws are standard. If at some point because of wear, one or more of the originals were replaced with #8's, then ordering a standard set would be of no use. Better check the size of the holes that you actually have before wasting time and money.

Pat/Ohio · 03-22-2016, 08:22 AM

Keep in mind that Ford used the standard "slotted" head screws and not the "phillips" head screws until after WWII. I found some of the #8 screws with #6 heads at Totally Stainless or one of the other fastener suppliers. Pat

Milt/Las Vegas · 03-22-2016, 08:40 AM

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I used stainless #8 oval straight slot on both my 40s,and they fit perfect.#6s would have been to small,and I bought them at the local Ace and True Value stores.

Vanspeed · 03-22-2016, 08:51 AM

I have tried ace and true value but all I can find is Phillips head. I did ask Roy but he was not 100 percent sure on the pickups. Good point about the holes being oversized if somebody put in to big of a screw.

cmbrucew · 03-22-2016, 08:58 AM

I use a pair of channel lock type of pliers to flatten the backside of the enlarged hole.
Then use standard equipment. works for me,
Bruce

Vanspeed · 03-22-2016, 09:41 AM

Good idea Bruce, will have to remember that.

Charlie ny · 03-22-2016, 09:44 AM

Van,
Sid's got it, Nacewicz was looking into making these garnish screws with
the correct size head but oversize threaded portion.
Charlie ny

V12Bill · 03-22-2016, 10:07 AM

My 1939 PU used #8 X 3/4" slotted Stainless Steel screws that I got from Totally Stainless. If the holes have been enlarged with #10 screws or just rust and wear, put a spot of MIG on the enlarged holes, grind smooth and re drill a 1/8" hole.

glennpm · 03-22-2016, 12:28 PM

I bought some oversize shank versus head size SS screws from an ebay vendor, Altha Stainless, located in Florida. Quality is great and reasonably priced.

http://stores.ebay.com/altha-stainle...p2047675.l2563

my4dv8 · 03-22-2016, 09:12 PM

We used to be able to go to our budget "super cheap" auto parts store and get the raised head counter sunk stainless screws in numerous sizes in blister packs but they don't stock them any more. Even my upholstery guru is not sure where to look locally for an easy find replacement.

Graeme / New Zealand · 03-22-2016, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbrucew

I use a pair of channel lock type of pliers to flatten the backside of the enlarged hole.
Then use standard equipment. works for me,
Bruce

Channel lock pliers are one of the most useful tools in any toolbox. A mechanic friend of mine refers to them as "nut fu#*ers".

I got my stainless oval headed PK screws polished at the local electroplaters before I installed them so they look chromed.

GB

Don Rogers · 03-23-2016, 01:08 AM

VanSpeed, I have a copy of a "Combined Commercial Body Unit List" from early 1935 which calls for #8x3/4" oval head slotted sheet metal screws (33002-S6) for the front door window garnish and rear window garnish. The #8 oval head will fit the garnish holes correctly and look great. While installing, you may need to use a few 1" long screws to pull the garnish into place.

Vanspeed · 03-23-2016, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Rogers

VanSpeed, I have a copy of a "Combined Commercial Body Unit List" from early 1935 which calls for #8x3/4" oval head slotted sheet metal screws (33002-S6) for the front door window garnish and rear window garnish. The #8 oval head will fit the garnish holes correctly and look great. While installing, you may need to use a few 1" long screws to pull the garnish into place.

Thanks Don! That is much appreciated.

my4dv8 · 03-24-2016, 04:11 PM

So where did you get your screws Graeme .

QUOTE=Graeme / New Zealand;1263449]Channel lock pliers are one of the most useful tools in any toolbox. A mechanic friend of mine refers to them as "nut fu#*ers".

I got my stainless oval headed PK screws polished at the local electroplaters before I installed them so they look chromed.

GB[/QUOTE]

03-22-2016, 06:52 AM	#2
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,976	Re: Garnish screws - what size? i think they are 6's or 8's __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

03-22-2016, 06:56 AM	#3
Sid the Maineiac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Norridgewock,Maine Posts: 657	Re: Garnish screws - what size? Try Roy Nacewicz @ 734-654-9450..I'll bet he can help you and knows just what size you need.A great guy to talk to about old Fords !

03-22-2016, 07:23 AM	#4
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: Garnish screws - what size? Let's assume that #6 screws are standard. If at some point because of wear, one or more of the originals were replaced with #8's, then ordering a standard set would be of no use. Better check the size of the holes that you actually have before wasting time and money. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

03-22-2016, 08:22 AM	#5
Pat/Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wilmington, OH/Lakeland, FL Posts: 988	Re: Garnish screws - what size? Keep in mind that Ford used the standard "slotted" head screws and not the "phillips" head screws until after WWII. I found some of the #8 screws with #6 heads at Totally Stainless or one of the other fastener suppliers. Pat

03-22-2016, 08:51 AM	#7
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,443	Re: Garnish screws - what size? I have tried ace and true value but all I can find is Phillips head. I did ask Roy but he was not 100 percent sure on the pickups. Good point about the holes being oversized if somebody put in to big of a screw. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

03-22-2016, 06:47 AM	#1
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,443	Garnish screws - what size? I have an early 35 pickup, missing all the garnish screws for the doors, rear window. I am looking at my Macs catalog and they don't call out a specific screw for these. Does anybody know what size they are so I can place an order? __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

03-22-2016, 08:40 AM	#6
Milt/Las Vegas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Las Vegas,Nv/Rainier,Or Posts: 450	Re: Garnish screws - what size? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I used stainless #8 oval straight slot on both my 40s,and they fit perfect.#6s would have been to small,and I bought them at the local Ace and True Value stores. __________________ Milt/Las Vegas

03-22-2016, 08:58 AM	#8
cmbrucew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North of sandy ago, CA. Posts: 2,080	Re: Garnish screws - what size? I use a pair of channel lock type of pliers to flatten the backside of the enlarged hole. Then use standard equipment. works for me, Bruce __________________ Works good Lasts long time

03-22-2016, 09:41 AM	#9
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,443	Re: Garnish screws - what size? Good idea Bruce, will have to remember that. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

03-22-2016, 09:44 AM	#10
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: Garnish screws - what size? Van, Sid's got it, Nacewicz was looking into making these garnish screws with the correct size head but oversize threaded portion. Charlie ny

03-22-2016, 10:07 AM	#11
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: Garnish screws - what size? My 1939 PU used #8 X 3/4" slotted Stainless Steel screws that I got from Totally Stainless. If the holes have been enlarged with #10 screws or just rust and wear, put a spot of MIG on the enlarged holes, grind smooth and re drill a 1/8" hole. Last edited by V12Bill; 03-22-2016 at 10:09 AM. Reason: Additional info

03-22-2016, 12:28 PM	#12
glennpm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mid-Coast Maine Posts: 2,815	Re: Garnish screws - what size? I bought some oversize shank versus head size SS screws from an ebay vendor, Altha Stainless, located in Florida. Quality is great and reasonably priced. http://stores.ebay.com/altha-stainle...p2047675.l2563

03-22-2016, 09:12 PM	#13
my4dv8 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,131	Re: Garnish screws - what size? We used to be able to go to our budget "super cheap" auto parts store and get the raised head counter sunk stainless screws in numerous sizes in blister packs but they don't stock them any more. Even my upholstery guru is not sure where to look locally for an easy find replacement.

03-23-2016, 01:08 AM	#15
Don Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis) Posts: 1,816	Re: Garnish screws - what size? VanSpeed, I have a copy of a "Combined Commercial Body Unit List" from early 1935 which calls for #8x3/4" oval head slotted sheet metal screws (33002-S6) for the front door window garnish and rear window garnish. The #8 oval head will fit the garnish holes correctly and look great. While installing, you may need to use a few 1" long screws to pull the garnish into place.

03-24-2016, 04:11 PM	#17
my4dv8 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,131	Re: Garnish screws - what size? So where did you get your screws Graeme . QUOTE=Graeme / New Zealand;1263449]Channel lock pliers are one of the most useful tools in any toolbox. A mechanic friend of mine refers to them as "nut fu#*ers". I got my stainless oval headed PK screws polished at the local electroplaters before I installed them so they look chromed. GB[/QUOTE]