Small King Pin Felt

[spinelll]

I’m not quite getting the brake operating pin/small king pin felt install.

Les Andrews on this:
Apply a small amount of grease on both ends of the operating pin and push it up thru the king pin. Place a felt dust washer in the backing plate hole for the operating pin.

Wouldn’t it be easier to first thread the pin thru the felt and leave it at the lower end of the operating pin. Then, insert the operating pin into the king pin and “work” felt thru the backing plate hole and into the king pin with a “blunt little tool.” Should not that felt be positioned at the lower end of the operating pin?

Am I missing something?

Thanks
Leo

[Mitch//pa]

i find it easy to loosen the backing plate bolts to install the felt. some have mentioned trimming it thinner but i would rather use the full thickness of the felt
# 30 in the pic
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/up...View-10107.pdf

[spinelll]

My brakes are all apart so I have lots of leeway with the backing plate.
But again, do you stuff the felt up thru the king pin after the operating pin is inserted?
And should it sit at the lower end of the pin?

[Mitch//pa]

the felt gets sandwiched behind the backing plate, then the pin gets pushed up through. it may be easier to push the pin up through the felt before completely tightening the plate up

[1930artdeco]

OK time for a rookie question. Does the felt go between the BP and the spindle on the 'outside' or does it stay inside the BP area and get pushed into the little hole? I just pushed the pin through the felt and left it between the wedge and the BP inside the drum.

Mike

Mitch you beat me to the answer. Is it going to cause a problem where it is at?

[Tom Wesenberg]

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From the backing plate backside you should see the felt sandwiched between the backing plate and bottom of the king pin. I grease the brake push rod and push it up through the backing plate, felt and kingpin. I have had to thin a couple to make them fit. I used a razor blade to make them half the thickness.

[spinelll]

Well now I’m about as confused as a fart in a fan factory.

I learned club member suggested that I first stuff the felt into the kingpin, assemble the backing plate and then insert the rod. Two things about that bug me.

1. The rod would push the felt up to the top of the kingpin way above the lower great fitting.
2. I can’t see how, at that point, the rod would make it thru the felt hole.

Tom suggested that the felt sits between the backing plate and the kingpin. I was always been under the impression (wrongly it seems) that the felt live inside the kingpin. I’ve tried to illustrate Tom’s scenario with a piece of pvc “acting” as the kingpin. This tells me that I have to “squash” the felt while attaching the backing plate to the spindle.
Tom is the pictured scenario close to your idea?

[Mitch//pa]

you have it correct it is sandwiched between the backing plate and the lower part of the spindle.

[redmodelt]

I just grease the felt, push the pin through, add a dab of grease to the top of the pin, install in the king pin, then install the backing plate.