The Ford Barn

spdway1 · 07-19-2013, 08:41 PM

You decide...Looks really Shiny to me.

Tinbasher · 07-19-2013, 09:04 PM

If you check out the judging standards you'll see that the Model A had to have 80% reflection value. Yup pretty shiny. The lacquer was buffed out but it wasn't colour sanded. The buffing with Red compound would smooth it out.

The Old Tinbasher

Mike V. Florida · 07-19-2013, 10:21 PM

I must have missed the post with the debate. I only saw one on the fire wall shine.

Mikeinnj · 07-19-2013, 10:43 PM

Original lacquer body paint resembled a "satin" finish as opposed to the gloss enamel finish on the black fenders. Most modern body paints are way too glossy to resemble an original finish.

Roadster62 · 07-19-2013, 10:50 PM

Are there any factory photos of masked body mouldings and window reveals during the paint process? Bob

BILL WILLIAMSON · 07-20-2013, 01:22 AM

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Except for showing, why would ANYONE spend the time & money to make a car look semi-un-shiny?? I read from one post that a guy used CHEEP wax to make his look un-shiny. On a repaint, a painter friend was offered EXTRA cash if he could paint a Caddy with that "NEW CAR" ORANGE PEEL LOOK!! The painter offered to throw that in FREE!! What a guy!! Bill W.

Tom Wesenberg · 07-20-2013, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Except for showing, why would ANYONE spend the time & money to make a car look semi-un-shiny?? I read from one post that a guy used CHEEP wax to make his look un-shiny. On a repaint, a painter friend was offered EXTRA cash if he could paint a Caddy with that "NEW CAR" ORANGE PEEL LOOK!! The painter offered to throw that in FREE!! What a guy!! Bill W.

LOL

Actually I would prefer that my car looks as original to factory as possible. I'm not a painter, but would like the duller look on my jams and firewall.

Hopefully someday I'll get the job done.

Uncle Bob · 07-20-2013, 07:55 AM

The picture of "Nessy" certainly has that wet look..........

Mitch//pa · 07-20-2013, 08:09 AM

i want my A's to be as shiny as possible outside, inside and under. henry would be proud

jhowes · 07-20-2013, 08:21 AM

Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 07-20-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowes

Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

The Lacquer paint was sprayed. The Enamel sheetmetal was dipped in vats. Remember that spraying was still in its infancy as DeVilbiss had only introduced the spray gun two years prior to the Model-A being introduced. Even though paint technology was advancing, it too was still in its infancy. Enamels & Pyroxilyns had been around quite a bit longer than sprayable Lacquer.

Red oxide primer, ...thin. Remember it was to promote adhesion and not for filling.

redmodelt · 07-20-2013, 10:47 AM

The Ford Model T service bulletin's for Aug 1926 has a chapter on how to spray paint using Ford Pyroxylin.

Jim Mason · 07-20-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowes

Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

look in the background of photo 1

Special Coupe Frank · 07-20-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowes

Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

Ford used Bonderite/Bonderizing primer, which is a reddish-brown, similar in color to Rust-Oleum's "rusty metal primer".

I believe they used only one color primer, no matter what the finish color was.

jhowes · 07-21-2013, 07:44 AM

To Jim Mason. Maybe it is because I am in my late 70's but I don't see anything in the background of photo 1. Jack

Coupster · 07-21-2013, 08:41 AM

He was answering the Roadster62 Question

"Are there any factory photos of masked body mouldings and window reveals during the paint process? Bob"

Roadster62 · 07-21-2013, 08:45 AM

That may be in answer to my question about masking the window areas for the different color painting. Thanks. Bob

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Originally Posted by jhowes

To Jim Mason. Maybe it is because I am in my late 70's but I don't see anything in the background of photo 1. Jack

07-19-2013, 09:04 PM	#2
Tinbasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Innisfil, Ontario Canada Posts: 1,205	Re: The Paint Finish Debate If you check out the judging standards you'll see that the Model A had to have 80% reflection value. Yup pretty shiny. The lacquer was buffed out but it wasn't colour sanded. The buffing with Red compound would smooth it out. The Old Tinbasher

07-19-2013, 10:21 PM	#3
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida between Sarasota and TampaSouth Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: The Paint Finish Debate I must have missed the post with the debate. I only saw one on the fire wall shine. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

07-19-2013, 10:43 PM	#4
Mikeinnj Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 1,262	Re: The Paint Finish Debate Original lacquer body paint resembled a "satin" finish as opposed to the gloss enamel finish on the black fenders. Most modern body paints are way too glossy to resemble an original finish. Last edited by Mikeinnj; 07-19-2013 at 10:44 PM. Reason: sp.

07-19-2013, 10:50 PM	#5
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,449	Re: The Paint Finish Debate Are there any factory photos of masked body mouldings and window reveals during the paint process? Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.

07-20-2013, 01:22 AM	#6
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: The Paint Finish Debate Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Except for showing, why would ANYONE spend the time & money to make a car look semi-un-shiny?? I read from one post that a guy used CHEEP wax to make his look un-shiny. On a repaint, a painter friend was offered EXTRA cash if he could paint a Caddy with that "NEW CAR" ORANGE PEEL LOOK!! The painter offered to throw that in FREE!! What a guy!! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

07-20-2013, 07:55 AM	#8
Uncle Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Salado, TX. Posts: 733	Re: The Paint Finish Debate The picture of "Nessy" certainly has that wet look.......... __________________ Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.

07-20-2013, 08:09 AM	#9
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: The Paint Finish Debate i want my A's to be as shiny as possible outside, inside and under. henry would be proud Last edited by Mitch//pa; 07-20-2013 at 08:26 AM.

07-20-2013, 08:21 AM	#10
jhowes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: upstate NY near Mass border Posts: 789	Re: The Paint Finish Debate Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

07-20-2013, 10:47 AM	#12
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,410	Re: The Paint Finish Debate The Ford Model T service bulletin's for Aug 1926 has a chapter on how to spray paint using Ford Pyroxylin.

07-21-2013, 07:44 AM	#15
jhowes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: upstate NY near Mass border Posts: 789	Re: The Paint Finish Debate To Jim Mason. Maybe it is because I am in my late 70's but I don't see anything in the background of photo 1. Jack

07-21-2013, 08:41 AM	#16
Coupster Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 47	Re: The Paint Finish Debate He was answering the Roadster62 Question "Are there any factory photos of masked body mouldings and window reveals during the paint process? Bob"