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spdway1 07-19-2013 08:41 PM

The Paint Finish Debate
 

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You decide...Looks really Shiny to me.:cool:

Tinbasher 07-19-2013 09:04 PM

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If you check out the judging standards you'll see that the Model A had to have 80% reflection value. Yup pretty shiny. The lacquer was buffed out but it wasn't colour sanded. The buffing with Red compound would smooth it out.

The Old Tinbasher

Mike V. Florida 07-19-2013 10:21 PM

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I must have missed the post with the debate. I only saw one on the fire wall shine.

Mikeinnj 07-19-2013 10:43 PM

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Original lacquer body paint resembled a "satin" finish as opposed to the gloss enamel finish on the black fenders. Most modern body paints are way too glossy to resemble an original finish.

Roadster62 07-19-2013 10:50 PM

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Are there any factory photos of masked body mouldings and window reveals during the paint process? Bob

BILL WILLIAMSON 07-20-2013 01:22 AM

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Except for showing, why would ANYONE spend the time & money to make a car look semi-un-shiny?? I read from one post that a guy used CHEEP wax to make his look un-shiny. On a repaint, a painter friend was offered EXTRA cash if he could paint a Caddy with that "NEW CAR" ORANGE PEEL LOOK!! The painter offered to throw that in FREE!! What a guy!! Bill W.

Tom Wesenberg 07-20-2013 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 691529)
Except for showing, why would ANYONE spend the time & money to make a car look semi-un-shiny?? I read from one post that a guy used CHEEP wax to make his look un-shiny. On a repaint, a painter friend was offered EXTRA cash if he could paint a Caddy with that "NEW CAR" ORANGE PEEL LOOK!! The painter offered to throw that in FREE!! What a guy!! Bill W.

LOL:D:p

Actually I would prefer that my car looks as original to factory as possible. I'm not a painter, but would like the duller look on my jams and firewall.:)

Hopefully someday I'll get the job done.:)

Uncle Bob 07-20-2013 07:55 AM

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The picture of "Nessy" certainly has that wet look..........

Mitch//pa 07-20-2013 08:09 AM

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i want my A's to be as shiny as possible outside, inside and under. henry would be proud

jhowes 07-20-2013 08:21 AM

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Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

BRENT in 10-uh-C 07-20-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowes (Post 691612)
Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack


The Lacquer paint was sprayed. The Enamel sheetmetal was dipped in vats. Remember that spraying was still in its infancy as DeVilbiss had only introduced the spray gun two years prior to the Model-A being introduced. Even though paint technology was advancing, it too was still in its infancy. Enamels & Pyroxilyns had been around quite a bit longer than sprayable Lacquer.

Red oxide primer, ...thin. Remember it was to promote adhesion and not for filling.

redmodelt 07-20-2013 10:47 AM

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The Ford Model T service bulletin's for Aug 1926 has a chapter on how to spray paint using Ford Pyroxylin.

Jim Mason 07-20-2013 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowes (Post 691612)
Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

look in the background of photo 1

Special Coupe Frank 07-20-2013 10:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowes (Post 691612)
Related question; The bodys were lacquer, the fenders, splash aprons, wheels, etc. were enamal. Why? The main question is what was the primer? color? was it red? Jack

Ford used Bonderite/Bonderizing primer, which is a reddish-brown, similar in color to Rust-Oleum's "rusty metal primer".

I believe they used only one color primer, no matter what the finish color was.

jhowes 07-21-2013 07:44 AM

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To Jim Mason. Maybe it is because I am in my late 70's but I don't see anything in the background of photo 1. Jack

Coupster 07-21-2013 08:41 AM

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He was answering the Roadster62 Question

"Are there any factory photos of masked body mouldings and window reveals during the paint process? Bob"

Roadster62 07-21-2013 08:45 AM

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That may be in answer to my question about masking the window areas for the different color painting. Thanks. Bob
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Originally Posted by jhowes (Post 692191)
To Jim Mason. Maybe it is because I am in my late 70's but I don't see anything in the background of photo 1. Jack



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