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Old 08-28-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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Default 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

We have a 30 that we are having trouble with its sputtering and backfiring at half to full throttle. we eliminated the tank by running an aux. fuel tank. changed carbs.(have 3)installed a brand new distributor.modern which we were running before. Retimed and set points. getting spark to all cylinders. Any suggestions? also the new distributor came with new points and condensor..
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:39 PM   #2
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Try a coil might be breaking down under load.. can also put an in line spark tester to cap and look for int or weak spark
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:41 PM   #3
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Sounds like an air/fuel mixture problem - intake manifold gasket leak ?
Would have suspected GAV mixture problem, but not likely on all 3 carburators
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:01 PM   #4
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Thanks fellas, do you think it could be a valve problem? car not run that often, only in the summer in NJ.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:08 PM   #5
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

could be alot of things even an exhaust pipe restriction from varmits

coil wired backwards

am shying away from manifold leak because it runs good at idle up to 1/2 throttle

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Old 08-28-2012, 06:10 PM   #6
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Certainly won't hurt to add 4-5 ozs of MMO to your aux tank. How about a compression ck??
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:47 PM   #7
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

A vacuum guage can tell you a lot.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:50 PM   #8
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Had one like that. Had a bad plug breaking down under load. Try a new set.

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Old 08-28-2012, 07:42 PM   #9
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

New Motorcraft plugs cured mine.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:47 PM   #10
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Sounds like you have done a lot to narrow it down. I like Mitch's suggestion to swap coils and see what that gets you. You can also use the wd-40 test and spray it around the intake to see if it affects how it runs. This would indicate a manifold leak. You say it runs great at idle which in my book would eliminate valve timinig but would be worth checking.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:51 PM   #11
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Tom, where do we put the vacuum gauge?
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:58 PM   #12
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

did try swapping coil wires, got worse.lol ears still ringing ....
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:08 PM   #13
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running champion w18's good plug?
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:14 PM   #14
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running champion w18's good plug?
18's are good plugs but I like the W16Y better. Both champion. I would just about bet it is a bad plug.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:31 PM   #15
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Tom, where do we put the vacuum gauge?
About mid 29 and later intake manifolds should have a vacuum port for the vacuum wipers. You can connect a vacuum guage to that port.
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How old is the gas? And even tho you have anew condenser in there, you might try another. Also check your GAV for 1/2 open while cold, 1/4 open when warm.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:46 AM   #17
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what should the readings be on the vacuum gauge?
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what should the readings be on the vacuum gauge?
A good running engine should show about 18 to 22 inches of vacuum. My 28 doesn't have a vacuum port, so I can't easily connect my guage. What you are looking for is a steady reading. If it's steady at idle, but starts to flick at higher speeds, that would indicate a sticky valve not closing as it should.

If it's steady and near normal at idle, but drops off while staying steady at higher speed, that could indicate a restricked exhaust.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:22 AM   #19
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

A very informative (to me) link concerning engine diagnosis using a vacuum gage was provided in reply 21, posted by HoarseWhisperer to the 4/19/12 “Why does my engine die when stopping?” thread. The link is:

http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...ts/vac/uum.htm.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:39 AM   #20
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Thanks for the chart, That's a great tool to help us all
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:32 PM   #21
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Default Re: 30 runs great at idle- throttle up different story.

Sorry for the late reply, just to lyk. It was the coil! running great again! thanks for all the replies.
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