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Old 06-18-2013, 08:15 PM   #1
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Does anyone know what happend to red Cross sport coupe? The last I knew anything it had been sold to a ford dealer and kept in the showroom in a glass box. At the time it was sold for I believe ten grand and was the most that had ever been paid to an a. I think that was in 63 or 64. Just curious todd313@
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I think its in south texas with paul and donna lewis who are quite active with mafca. Atleast i know they owned it in 2010, they may have sold it by now im not sure.
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Paul and Donna Lewis still own it.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:17 PM   #4
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Here is an article about it in a glass box.

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Does anyone know what happend to red Cross sport coupe? The last I knew anything it had been sold to a ford dealer and kept in the showroom in a glass box. At the time it was sold for I believe ten grand and was the most that had ever been paid to an a. I think that was in 63 or 64. Just curious todd313@
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:35 AM   #6
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[QUOTE=spdway1;673290]Red Cross?[/QUOTE

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Old 06-19-2013, 04:43 PM   #7
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At the time it didn't seem as odd as it sounds today when knowledge of authentic restoration is now more common knowledge although selectively ignored both then and now. When my dad would bring our new Ford in for service in the late fifties, visiting the Claude Grow car was very exciting part of the visit. Fred A
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Red crow. The founder if Mafca
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I thought it was Red Grow.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:26 PM   #10
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What kind of shape is the car in today?
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What kind of shape is the car in today?
It's decent. Better than most cars are that haven't restored in the last 50 years. It could use a new paint job and top, but at the same time it's toss up as to wether or not that would be a good idea. It would look really sharp with fresh paint, but then you're changing it from the way that red left it.
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Red was an interesting guy. He had a used car lot on San Fernando road in Burbank,CA and you could usually find a few A bones for sale on the lot. There was a Bobs Big Boy down the street and the fellows that started the MAFCA used to eat lunches there. There are pics showing the gang at Reds lot in an early Restorer.
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The judging standards have gotten a lot tougher since the sixties. I wonder if it would meet the 13 requirements that are now necessary to even be judged. It is likely over accessorized.
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Let's see some recent up close pics of her..............anyone ??...........
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:00 AM   #15
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FYI, When you visit the Model A Museum in Michigan look at the two wheels in the Gulf Gas station display. They are on loan from Paul Lewis. They are wheels from Red Grow's Sport Coupe. He fondly called the car "Betsy" Go see the Museum, I know you will be impressed. Also, the meter is running at the tune of 4K per month to keep the Museum Open. Please make a donation to MAFFI.Org.

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Red Grows car "Betsy" was an inspiration in it's time. It drove many people to do their best in restoring their car. In the need for more information to do a better job...the Judging Standards evolved. WE can thank Red and the MAFCA founders for their vision!!
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I think I remember reading and seeing pics of the car with one of the rare
rumbel seat cloth top accessories: Tux-Away or something?

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Old 06-20-2013, 11:41 AM   #18
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Was the colors of the car correct?
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:22 PM   #19
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I remember reading that Red chose the sport coupe because more accessories were available at the time for it.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #20
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Todd3131,

No Red painted his Sport Coupe with Cabriolet colors. The following is a quote from the first issue of The Restorer. Red wrote:

"The most difficult job was painting. The original color, which I believe was Ford Washington Blue, had been obliterated by a solid coat of nondescript gray. However, about the time I was ready for painting I came across an original dealer's poster picturing a Sport Coupe with a "sporty" shade of yellow. After many hours testing and experimenting the shade was matched."

I am fairly certain that the poster was of a Cabriolet and not a Sport Coupe. In it's time it was an excellent restoration. However even at it's peak condition in the 50's it would not even qualify for today's blue ribbon judging.

Here are some additional 50's - 60's pictures of the car from The Restorer. The second one is from the cover of the July-Aug 1962 Restorer. I was at a MAFCA meeting a couple of years ago and there was mention of a cover of a recent Restorer which had a picture of a yellow 1929 Business Coupe. Some of the people there were outraged that a Model A with incorrect colors would be put on the cover of The Restorer. Someone said something like "there has never been a yellow coupe on the front cover of The Restorer". I was going to say something at the time but did not want to contradict the people at the meeting.



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