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Old 07-21-2011, 01:52 PM   #1
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Default Setting carb float height

I have read 2 different ways. One says to turn card upside down and with float level measure from flange to lower edge of bead on float and it should be 1". Says to bend float arm in necessary. If that is correct which is lower bead? The way I an looking at it then or the way it is when in the carb. The other way is with a tool to measure fuel height in bowl which should be 9/16 to 5/8". Since it don't have that tool could I place carb upper casting with float on a plastic dish with flat sides? That dish would act like lower bowl and it is clear. Would be easy to see right where fuel stopped entering.

Right now with 2 gaskets under seat float is 1" from gasket flange to lower bead on float as I am looking at it upside down , ie. where float starts getting larger so 1 part will fit in the other.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:13 PM   #2
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Yes you can use a transparent container. It's described in some of the old manuals, and it worked for me.
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:03 PM   #3
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My experience has been that the best way to set the float level is to use some type of jig where you can view the actual level. I set it at a nominal 5\8" down from where the top and bottom casting joins.

It is best to never molest the float when trying to set the level. Most of the problems I have seen where the level is off or it won't hold the level is because someone in the past tweeked with the float. If the float does not actuate straight it will push the valve to one side and not allow it to seat properly.

The float level should be adjusted by the thickness of the gasket under the valve. I have encountered floats that were so molested that they were impossible to use.

I have discovered that a new float from Bratton's and a new viton tip float valve from Bratton's usually work perfect with just one gasket under the valve.

It is prudent to take the float valve apart before you install it and check and clean out any brass debris left over from the machining process. Walt does not have complete quality control over his manufacturing suppliers.

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Old 07-27-2011, 07:15 AM   #4
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Default Re: Setting carb float height

This is how I solved my issue with float height
Used 2 clear neoprene gaskets under a modern square Viton needle valve.
Prior to contacting Bert's it took hours of trial and error, leaks, gas pouring out of the carb air inlet. Very frustrating.
After installing the parts listed above the car now runs fine.

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Old 07-27-2011, 09:46 AM   #5
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Me thinks the "new" gas is going to screw up your neoprene gaskets. JMO
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:12 AM   #6
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Me thinks the "new" gas is going to screw up your neoprene gaskets. JMO
Paul in CT

Yeah, that and the viton tipped needle. The ethanol fuel will cause the viton tiped needle to stick closed, then NO gas can enter the bowl. Since the influx of ethanol spiked fuel, I have went back to the original style needle and seat.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:55 AM   #7
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The new viton tipped needle is designed for ethanol. Maybe the older units were not but the last two I bought specificaly state that they are resistant to ethanol. I have had this unit on my coupe for 4 years with no problem.

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Old 07-27-2011, 02:59 PM   #8
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The part of the float that presses against the needle should be perpendicular to the needle. Old floats often have a depression where the float pressed on the needle. In some cases the depression pushes the bottom of the needle to the side so that you cannot get a good seal. If this is the case, you should get rid of the depression. One way is to fill it with solder. The solder is soft, but it should last a while. I have soldered a piece of brass shim over the depression.
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