32 cabriolet door glass window rollers

[my4dv8]

Great information and picture @Linconville. What holds the springs in and what do they push against? We have absolutely no springs,so didn’t know that they were even missing. Slowly getting more elusive information.

[Lincolnville]

I’ve attached a few more photos to help you unravel the mystery. In the first photo you can see one spring that is properly functioning (left side) and then one that is missing the spring but the rivet/post that retains the spring is still present.
If you look at your post (#13- the 3rd & 4th pictures) and compare it to the first two pictures in this post you can start to get an idea. The rivet/post in the first picture, right side, holds in the spring and has a washer that acts as a retainer for the spring – now missing.
At this point, I believe the rivet/post is either spot welded in or pressed into the inner guide – (see pictures with the blue tape). The inner guide runs the entire length of the vertical channels. From your pictures post (#13- the 3rd & 4th pictures), your inner guide is either missing entirely or is so badly warped/ rusted as to make it worthless.
I’ve ordered springs from McMaster-Carr today.
Channel is constructed of 1/16” thick steel.
Height: 55/64”
Width: 57/64”
Inner width: 51/64”
Height of inner guide is 95/128”
Feel free to send me a DM with your email address if you need additional pictures.

Matt

[Lincolnville]

I've attached a few last pictures. As you can see the from the last picture, the post would pass through the channel and then attach to the inner guide. The drift pin is 7/64". So that would be the diameter of the post. It now appears the post was pressed into place - like a rivet.

Matt

[Lincolnville]

One last post.
You should be able to see how the spring is held in by the channel and then how the post/rivet acts as a guide and as a retainer- see post 22 – picture 6347 and picture 6364 from this post.
The inner guide is in the shape of an inverted “L” and runs the length of the channel. See post 22 – picture 6352 right side and picture 6369 from this post.
As in all pictures, the blue tape is the inner guide
Springs can be ordered from WB Jones, in Kentucky part # 189. Or you can order them from McMaster-Carr.

[my4dv8]

We need more folk like Linconville on the barn who take time out of their busy day to post pictures and give an excellent detailed postings. If your car does not have the particular part often you dont know that it is in fact missing. Two Thumbs up to Linconville.

[Karl Wescott]

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Not to reopen the thread, but the information here was able to help a person in California with his 1937 convertible sedan, which has the early style roller system. He was missing the spring loaded part of the run channel and did not know it. Thanks all

[my4dv8]

Exactly Karl , we were missing that part also and didn’t even know we needed it .Great place ,the Barn ,and @linconville .

[32Bee]

I'm currently slowly installing the glass in my 35 convertible sedan. I made new rollers for
all 4 of my window frames utilizing my Logan metal lathe. The only ones I didn't remake
were the 2 larger ones that each frame has which, on my car, are where the small springs
in question are located. The door glass channels on my car have no adjustment rollers or
springs. I haven't decided as to whether I'm going to replace the felt in my channels as
originally the channels were factory crimped in order to hold the felt in. Currently the one
window I have installed rolls up and down satisfactorily and I think I'll leave well enough
alone.

[Lincolnville]

I've finished fixing the channel and all 3 are now for sale. As shown in the pictures, one of the channels still needs to straightened, welded (the blue cap is pointing the cracks) and have the springs installed.