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Old 03-26-2019, 08:00 PM   #21
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I just did this repair on my '47 this winter. I installed new bushings, king pins, had them honed to fit and the results are amazing. I would not use the needle bearing type kit.

Less moving parts, less problems.



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Old 03-26-2019, 09:25 PM   #22
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I had been ignoring a funky weld glob on the top side of my axle.



So I cut it off to see what was under there.



So my king pin job just got a little more involved, does this need replaced or just a proper weld?

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Old 03-26-2019, 09:34 PM   #23
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It can be welded.... but I'd replace it. It's forged. welding can warp metal also. Good catch. Looks like a real nice low heat weld. Replace the axle.




Shouldn't be to bad to replace. Not like the all the steering depends on it and weight of the car is forced on it.


Hard to believe it cracked there really.


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Old 03-26-2019, 09:38 PM   #24
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Be careful taking the spring off. Better when it's in the car. Save those spring covers and reuse. They are way cool and functional.


Depending on where you want to go... good time to get a drop axle. Not to be presumptuous, but you've posted your interior done before by a old timer, so I'm guessing stock isn't the end game. All good. Sid most likely has straight stockers too.

https://www.droppedaxles.com/ford-dropped-axles-0


Just know off hand, depending on drop you will need to bend spindle arms and possibly shorting the tie rod.


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Old 03-26-2019, 10:03 PM   #25
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I wouldn't mind dropping the front a tad, yeah the interior is different it was done in 1968 then the car sat, I really don't want to change the car I kind of like the weirdness of it, lol, I am mainly just wanting to get the car as mechanically sound as possible. If I could get the parts gathered it would help speed the process.

A pic under the hood, I took a few liberties, if this car doesn't belong here let me know and I will delete it. The knowledge here has been invaluable!
I'm stuck waiting on parts under the hood.

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Old 03-26-2019, 10:06 PM   #26
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For sure it belongs here. Less you want to put airbag suspension or a MM2 frontend in.




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Old 03-26-2019, 10:16 PM   #27
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You guys talked me through my brake drum hub swap, lol.
I have all these new parts and can't put them on.



Stuck here waiting on a cap.



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Old 03-26-2019, 10:23 PM   #28
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Pandora's box! You opened it.
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:25 PM   #29
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:31 PM   #30
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At least you are smart enough to start to close it. Look forward to your progress.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws-_syszg84




is it weird of me to wonder your later posts are of a complete front axle and your previous post are of a spindle dissembled on a bench....




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Old 03-27-2019, 08:35 AM   #31
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The spindles are waiting on king pins and now the king pins are waiting on an axle, lol.
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Definitely keep those spring covers.

I currently have the rear end and transmission out of my '47. Doing a total rear end rebuild with 3:54 ring and pinion. Also going to rebuild the transmission while I have this all apart.
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I have not looked real close at the spring covers beyond skinning 72 years of grease and possum guts off of them, it looked like some type of staples attaching them, are they difficult to remove from the old spring without destroying them.
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Definitely keep those spring covers.

I currently have the rear end and transmission out of my '47. Doing a total rear end rebuild with 3:54 ring and pinion. Also going to rebuild the transmission while I have this all apart.
Sounds like you have started on the opposite end than me, I'm trying not to think about back there yet, the wife comes out and catches me with the back end torn off, I'll have some splaining to do.
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rich b, stepped up and offered me a steering stop nut for the retaining pin that was MIA, he already has it in the mail, what a great resource and people at the Barn!
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Sounds like you have started on the opposite end than me, I'm trying not to think about back there yet, the wife comes out and catches me with the back end torn off, I'll have some splaining to do.
I worked front to back. I did the king pin work back in December. Doing the rear end and transmission work now. Going to be visiting my friend Michael Driskell at Third Gen Automotive real soon.

I'll be set for a rollicking good time in Auburn for the EFV8 club national meet.
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If you are looking for a dropped axle check with Sid's.

https://www.droppedaxles.com/
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Am I missing something? The weld on the axle can just be ground off, can't it? I can't see a crack.

Can you see any reason why the weld was put on there?

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Welding should be a none issue on a forged part.
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Am I missing something? The weld on the axle can just be ground off, can't it? I can't see a crack.

Can you see any reason why the weld was put on there?

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It's for sure cracked, half way across the top it seems an odd place for it to crack, I am dreading the perch removal from what I have read it can be ugly.
If a drop axle is installed will other changes be needed, I don't want it in the weeds but a slight drop would be nice.
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