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Msaby · 05-30-2013, 06:23 AM

I am planning on draining the oil on my car this weekend.
* Do I just remove the drain plug and empty the pan?
* Is there a screen or filter of some sort?
* What oil is recommended?
* How may quarts of oil are needed?

Sorry for the basic questions, I am still learning the vehicle.

Thanks
Mike

al's28/33 · 05-30-2013, 07:02 AM

5 quarts non-detergent just remove the plug and drain it. lefty loosy righty tighty

James Rogers · 05-30-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by al's28/33

5 quarts non-detergent just remove the plug and drain it. lefty loosy righty tighty

Wrong!

1931 flamingo · 05-30-2013, 07:03 AM

Yes, install 4 1/2 quarts of YOUR choice oil. Many different views on what type/brand to use. I use 30W. Do a search at top of page. Also suggest you get a copy of Les Andrew's book Vol 1, available from any of the vendor's and possibly amazon. Lots of good info. Al;so get some free catalogs from the vendors, there's a wealth of info in them also.
Paul in CT

ctlikon0712 · 05-30-2013, 07:19 AM

A new engine takes 5 quarts but a half quart is retained in various places in the motor so it will take 4 1/2 on a refill. Also the change frequency is 500 miles because there is no filter and a few other reasons. It is just as important to lube the cars lube points properly and on a set schedule. Here is that info...

I got the lube chart from an owners manual that can be found here.
http://www.motormayhem.net/mode-a-fo...owners-manual/

V4F · 05-30-2013, 08:33 AM

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personally i would not use non-detergent oil . it causes sludge . new oils are just fine . i run 20/50 valvoline VR1

sethkestenbaum · 05-30-2013, 09:13 AM

Mike,

Good questions... especially if you have never changed the oil in your car. I received the following advice when I did my first oil change about 1.5 years ago.

If this is the first oil change on a "new to you" car, be certain to look at how opaque or transparent the oil is that drains. If it looks like chocolate syrup or is really gritty, it may be time to consider "dropping the pan" and cleaning out the valve chamber. If the oil looks like light or dark maple syrup, you are in good shape -- change it regularly and enjoy. If it looks milky, that is a different can of worms completely as you have water or coolant getting in there. If it has pieces of metal in it, call a mechanic!

bogdonj · 05-30-2013, 09:21 AM

Should also note that when you loosen and take out the plug in the pan make sure you grab the small ring/washer that comes with it and don't allow it to fall into the oil catch bucket...done that and isn't fun. Also when tightening the plug don't over do it and strip the threads. If it's an older engine I run Shell Rotella 15W-40.

Msaby · 05-30-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bogdonj

Should also note that when you loosen and take out the plug in the pan make sure you grab the small ring/washer that comes with it and don't allow it to fall into the oil catch bucket...done that and isn't fun. Also when tightening the plug don't over do it and strip the threads. If it's an older engine I run Shell Rotella 15W-40.

yea, I have had that happen to me a few times over the years.

Thanks
Mike

J Franklin · 05-30-2013, 09:26 AM

If you can, find out what the previous owner was using for oil, that will tell you a lot.

Msaby · 05-30-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by J Franklin

If you can, find out what the previous owner was using for oil, that will tell you a lot.

My father has owned the vehicle for maybe 15 years and hardly drove it. I would have been the one who changed the oil many years ago. The car has been sitting under a car cover for atleast 7-8 years now.

Thanks
Mike

marc hildebrant · 05-30-2013, 04:51 PM

Msaby,

I would urge you to get the Model A owners manual and other Model A books and THEN ask for help on the Barn.

In that manner, you can compare the answers....

Marc

Msaby · 05-30-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marc hildebrant

Msaby,

I would urge you to get the Model A owners manual and other Model A books and THEN ask for help on the Barn.

In that manner, you can compare the answers....

Marc

I actually do have an owners manual along with a few others. Manuals are a great resource, however I also like to hear from individuals who have real world expericence with their "A"s

I will keep my questions on this forum at a minumum. Sorry for posting such basic questions
.
Thanks
Mike

BILL WILLIAMSON · 05-31-2013, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Msaby

I actually do have an owners manual along with a few others. Manuals are a great resource, however I also like to hear from individuals who have real world expericence with their "A"s

I will keep my questions on this forum at a minumum. Sorry for posting such basic questions
.
Thanks
Mike

Michael, may I call you that, or is that what they call you when "THEY'RE" mad @ you?
Dog here, you DON"T have to minimumize your questions here, jist "FIRE" away Iffin' you encounter a coupla' GROUCHES here, jist "BLOW" them off!
I know Model A stuff, too, so if you want to by-pass Ol' Bill, jest ask me. You gotta' Dog? Me, I'm a Rat Terrier Show Dog I KILL rats & other RODENTS & even SNAKES! (I'm for hire, also $$$$) Buster T.

baquetA1929 · 05-30-2013, 09:48 AM

As you can tell equals liters? "install 4 1/2 quarts"

Sparky · 06-03-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baquetA1929

As you can tell equals liters? "install 4 1/2 quarts"

It's nearly the same. 4.5 quarts = 4.26 liters.

Dave in Boise · 05-30-2013, 11:01 AM

I like the Delo 400 as it is a 15-40 weight and has some zinc in it as it was formulated for diesels.. Just remember, *any* oil is better than none at all

- Dave in Boise

Chuck Sea/Tac · 04-23-2017, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave in Boise

I like the Delo 400 as it is a 15-40 weight and has some zinc in it as it was formulated for diesels.. Just remember, *any* oil is better than none at all

- Dave in Boise

If it's dello le, then it does not have zinc. I don't think you can buy the old dello anymore. Thanks

James Rogers · 05-30-2013, 11:49 AM

Just drain the oil and replace it with enough to bring the level to half way between the F and the L. You may find it will only take 4 quarts to get to that point. Use any Diesel grade HD oil or if you don't want to use Diesel oil any kind of High Detergent is good. Non detergent oil is for lawnmowers and I don't even use it in mine.

Hicktick · 05-30-2013, 12:09 PM

Warm the engine up first , it will flow out better .

05-30-2013, 06:23 AM	#1
Msaby Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Allentown, Pa. Posts: 37	Oil change I am planning on draining the oil on my car this weekend. * Do I just remove the drain plug and empty the pan? * Is there a screen or filter of some sort? * What oil is recommended? * How may quarts of oil are needed? Sorry for the basic questions, I am still learning the vehicle. Thanks Mike

05-30-2013, 07:02 AM	#2
al's28/33 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 1,591	Re: Oil change 5 quarts non-detergent just remove the plug and drain it. lefty loosy righty tighty __________________ 1928 "A" Phaeton (mid year with many early features) 1933 "V8" Closed-Cab Pickup Truck (originally a Model B, 4 Cylinder dating to May, 1933)

05-30-2013, 07:03 AM	#4
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Oil change Yes, install 4 1/2 quarts of YOUR choice oil. Many different views on what type/brand to use. I use 30W. Do a search at top of page. Also suggest you get a copy of Les Andrew's book Vol 1, available from any of the vendor's and possibly amazon. Lots of good info. Al;so get some free catalogs from the vendors, there's a wealth of info in them also. Paul in CT

05-30-2013, 08:33 AM	#6
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Oil change Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) personally i would not use non-detergent oil . it causes sludge . new oils are just fine . i run 20/50 valvoline VR1 __________________ V4f

05-30-2013, 09:13 AM	#7
sethkestenbaum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 632	Re: Oil change Mike, Good questions... especially if you have never changed the oil in your car. I received the following advice when I did my first oil change about 1.5 years ago. If this is the first oil change on a "new to you" car, be certain to look at how opaque or transparent the oil is that drains. If it looks like chocolate syrup or is really gritty, it may be time to consider "dropping the pan" and cleaning out the valve chamber. If the oil looks like light or dark maple syrup, you are in good shape -- change it regularly and enjoy. If it looks milky, that is a different can of worms completely as you have water or coolant getting in there. If it has pieces of metal in it, call a mechanic! __________________ Seth Kestenbaum www.oldcarroadtrip.com

05-30-2013, 09:21 AM	#8
bogdonj Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Walkerton, Ont. Canada Posts: 623	Re: Oil change Should also note that when you loosen and take out the plug in the pan make sure you grab the small ring/washer that comes with it and don't allow it to fall into the oil catch bucket...done that and isn't fun. Also when tightening the plug don't over do it and strip the threads. If it's an older engine I run Shell Rotella 15W-40. __________________ _________________________________________ 1931 Ford Model A Tudor 1930 Ford Model A Deluxe Roadster 1930 Ford Original Rolling Chassis- Restoring

05-30-2013, 09:26 AM	#10
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,969	Re: Oil change If you can, find out what the previous owner was using for oil, that will tell you a lot.

05-30-2013, 04:51 PM	#12
marc hildebrant Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,128	Re: Oil change Msaby, I would urge you to get the Model A owners manual and other Model A books and THEN ask for help on the Barn. In that manner, you can compare the answers.... Marc

05-30-2013, 09:48 AM	#15
baquetA1929 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Argentina Posts: 25	Re: Oil change As you can tell equals liters? "install 4 1/2 quarts" __________________ "Los hombres cobardes ven la muerte muchas veces, los hombres valientes solo una" "Siempre hay que tratar de ser el mejor, pero nunca creerse el mejor". J.M. FANGIO

05-30-2013, 11:01 AM	#17
Dave in Boise Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 330	Re: Oil change I like the Delo 400 as it is a 15-40 weight and has some zinc in it as it was formulated for diesels.. Just remember, any oil is better than none at all - Dave in Boise

05-30-2013, 11:49 AM	#19
James Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Asheville,NC Posts: 3,104	Re: Oil change Just drain the oil and replace it with enough to bring the level to half way between the F and the L. You may find it will only take 4 quarts to get to that point. Use any Diesel grade HD oil or if you don't want to use Diesel oil any kind of High Detergent is good. Non detergent oil is for lawnmowers and I don't even use it in mine. __________________ http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com/

05-30-2013, 12:09 PM	#20
Hicktick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hickory Tavern , SC Posts: 422	Re: Oil change Warm the engine up first , it will flow out better .