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'59Edsel · 07-06-2013, 04:01 PM

Hey guys,

I'm going to keep my Edsel's 292 stock and was wondering where I could find the seal for the road draft tube. It's the seal that goes between the tube and the valley cover. Even a part number would be useful if you've got one. Thanks

Y-Blockhead · 07-06-2013, 04:13 PM

I would suggest doing away with the road draft tube and installing a PCV system. Your engine will love you for it.

I'm sure there was a discussion on PCV's on here or YBF. Do a search.

streetdreams · 07-06-2013, 04:34 PM

Agree with Y-Block. Do away with the draft tube and install a PCV system. They're easy to fab up, and you can get plenty of help and info on fabbing and sizing the PCV valve properly on this forum. Things like road draft tubes and single well master cylinders are better gotten rid of.

ford3 · 07-06-2013, 07:23 PM

y block is right, up grade the draft tube to a pvc, if you have ever been waiting at a stop lite after a fairly hard run and the fumes from the draft tube filter into the cab with you you will know why we say change it

paul2748 · 07-06-2013, 08:56 PM

See my comments on Y-Blocks Forever

NH Ford nut · 07-10-2013, 08:04 PM

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If you have not been talked out of it already, send me a PM.
I will send you a gasket free of charge.
Good luck,
Tom

'59Edsel · 07-10-2013, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH Ford nut

If you have not been talked out of it already, send me a PM.
I will send you a gasket free of charge.
Good luck,
Tom

No, they didn't talk me out of it. But darn, I just bought 5 of them out of a catalog. Thanks though!

blucar · 07-28-2013, 09:58 AM

I have converted several Y-blocks to PCV systems, getting rid of the draft tubes. In a few cases I blocked the draft tubes off when I installed the PCV, I did this to retain the original look of the engine.
With the installation of a good PCV system, you will be amazed how clean the engine and engine compartment will be because the oil leakage from the fill pipe, etc., is eliminated.
The '63-64 292's in the Ford trucks had a really neat PCV system, that is what I generally use when I convert a Y-block to a PCV system...

bjmayberry2 · 08-11-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetdreams

Agree with Y-Block. Do away with the draft tube and install a PCV system. They're easy to fab up, and you can get plenty of help and info on fabbing and sizing the PCV valve properly on this forum. Things like road draft tubes and single well master cylinders are better gotten rid of.

Pretty new to the forum. How/Where do I look for converting a Y-Blocks draft tube to a PVC system?

Y-Blockhead · 08-12-2013, 10:29 AM

Hi Mayberry. Welcome to the Barn. I know there was a thread on here but I can't find it, which may be a good thing because if I remember correctly there was some not so accurate advice.
Sooo with that said try YBF. Here is a link to a thread on there; http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/To...x?Keywords=PCV

Here is a picture of where my PCV is located on the valley pan.

And here is a picture of where it connects to an Edelbrock carb similar to mine. (I'll get a picture of mine when I get out to the garage). Sometimes they are connected to the intake manifold.

The basic idea is to suck the BAD vapors out of the crankcase (that would otherwise cause sludge and corrosion) and burn them. (Instead of dumping them to the atmosphere).

Blue Futura · 08-12-2013, 11:10 AM

P V C = Polyvinyl chloride = plumbing pipe.

P C V = Positive crankcase ventilation.

__Yeah I say it wrong half of the time too. __

JIM__

Y-Blockhead · 08-12-2013, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Futura

P V C = Polyvinyl chloride = plumbing pipe.

P C V = Positive crankcase ventilation.

__Yeah I say it wrong half of the time too. __

JIM__

I get it wrong all the time. At work we have PCV's (Pressure Control Valves), PSV (Pressure Safety Valves) and PRV (Pressure Relief Valves).

Blue Futura · 08-12-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

I get it wrong all the time. At work we have PCV's (Pressure Control Valves), PSV (Pressure Safety Valves) and PRV (Pressure Relief Valves).

Before retired i was a building contractor and worked with plumbing sometimes on small jobs. More than once i have called my regular plumbing subcontractor and told him to bring me some P C V pipe for a small job i was doing that he never had time to do,he always got a laugh out of that .

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Y-Blockhead · 08-12-2013, 05:16 PM

Alrighty then, here's the picture I promised. The 3/8" hose at the base of the carb goes to my PCV valve.

and for shits and giggles here's one when I have my trips on it. The 3/8" hose from the center carb goes to the PCV.

'59Edsel · 11-24-2013, 11:01 PM

I ended up going with a PCV setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgyyF16Go8

I connected two old draft tube "housings" together and put a grommet into one, the grommet holds the PCV valve and that in turn connects to the vacuum port in front of the carb. It's in line with the vacuum wipers, so I have a check valve to keep anything from entering the vacuum wiper pump. The engine draws fresh air in from the oil fill tube.

07-06-2013, 04:01 PM	#1
'59Edsel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles County Posts: 124	Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube Hey guys, I'm going to keep my Edsel's 292 stock and was wondering where I could find the seal for the road draft tube. It's the seal that goes between the tube and the valley cover. Even a part number would be useful if you've got one. Thanks

07-06-2013, 04:13 PM	#2
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube I would suggest doing away with the road draft tube and installing a PCV system. Your engine will love you for it. I'm sure there was a discussion on PCV's on here or YBF. Do a search. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 07-06-2013 at 06:44 PM.

07-06-2013, 04:34 PM	#3
streetdreams Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Howell, Michigan, USA, The Peoples Slightly Overspent Demodependancy of Michigan Posts: 638	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube Agree with Y-Block. Do away with the draft tube and install a PCV system. They're easy to fab up, and you can get plenty of help and info on fabbing and sizing the PCV valve properly on this forum. Things like road draft tubes and single well master cylinders are better gotten rid of.

07-06-2013, 07:23 PM	#4
ford3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: oroville calif. Posts: 1,453	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube y block is right, up grade the draft tube to a pvc, if you have ever been waiting at a stop lite after a fairly hard run and the fumes from the draft tube filter into the cab with you you will know why we say change it

07-06-2013, 08:56 PM	#5
paul2748 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 3,982	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube See my comments on Y-Blocks Forever

07-10-2013, 08:04 PM	#6
NH Ford nut Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 14	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If you have not been talked out of it already, send me a PM. I will send you a gasket free of charge. Good luck, Tom Last edited by NH Ford nut; 07-10-2013 at 08:06 PM. Reason: clarity issue

07-28-2013, 09:58 AM	#8
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube I have converted several Y-blocks to PCV systems, getting rid of the draft tubes. In a few cases I blocked the draft tubes off when I installed the PCV, I did this to retain the original look of the engine. With the installation of a good PCV system, you will be amazed how clean the engine and engine compartment will be because the oil leakage from the fill pipe, etc., is eliminated. The '63-64 292's in the Ford trucks had a really neat PCV system, that is what I generally use when I convert a Y-block to a PCV system... __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe

08-12-2013, 10:29 AM	#10
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube Hi Mayberry. Welcome to the Barn. I know there was a thread on here but I can't find it, which may be a good thing because if I remember correctly there was some not so accurate advice. Sooo with that said try YBF. Here is a link to a thread on there; http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/To...x?Keywords=PCV Here is a picture of where my PCV is located on the valley pan. And here is a picture of where it connects to an Edelbrock carb similar to mine. (I'll get a picture of mine when I get out to the garage). Sometimes they are connected to the intake manifold. The basic idea is to suck the BAD vapors out of the crankcase (that would otherwise cause sludge and corrosion) and burn them. (Instead of dumping them to the atmosphere). Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 08-12-2013 at 10:40 AM.

08-12-2013, 11:10 AM	#11
Blue Futura Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: South west Idaho Posts: 45	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube P V C = Polyvinyl chloride = plumbing pipe. P C V = Positive crankcase ventilation. __Yeah I say it wrong half of the time too. __ JIM__ __________________ 64 Futura , bought new. 56 ford fairlane , bought about 30 years ago. 35 chevy street rod , started building in 2000.

08-12-2013, 05:16 PM	#14
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube Alrighty then, here's the picture I promised. The 3/8" hose at the base of the carb goes to my PCV valve. and for shits and giggles here's one when I have my trips on it. The 3/8" hose from the center carb goes to the PCV. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 08-12-2013 at 05:29 PM.

11-24-2013, 11:01 PM	#15
'59Edsel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles County Posts: 124	Re: Keeping the Original Road Draft Tube I ended up going with a PCV setup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgyyF16Go8 I connected two old draft tube "housings" together and put a grommet into one, the grommet holds the PCV valve and that in turn connects to the vacuum port in front of the carb. It's in line with the vacuum wipers, so I have a check valve to keep anything from entering the vacuum wiper pump. The engine draws fresh air in from the oil fill tube.