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02-15-2018, 10:38 PM | #61 | |
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Thanks for explaining the 'bassackwards' thingy ! Nice clear pictures too. Thanks for sharing. Now , my question is...is there any welding/fabbing to do or have 'they done that...and it's a bolt in job ? |
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02-15-2018, 10:45 PM | #63 | |
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The longer the bar the better, but the diff pumpkin gets in the way. Go back up to the sketch and see a longer bar sits at an angle in order to clear the diff. As I see it, the longer the better, the bar should go from the chassis frame, all the way as far as possible and as close to the opposite wheel. It should be as level and perpendicular to the frame and parallel to the axle. However, this is not always possible and the Model A is not a racing car, and therefor a ‘half’ panhard will work just fine. You could off course go for a full bar with a kink to clear the diff. Regards Chris
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02-16-2018, 12:04 AM | #65 |
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It is all bolt in. It bolts to the center section of the rear axle and uses the same holes that bolt on the LR Shock. There is a hole already in the frame for the third bolt.
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02-16-2018, 02:56 AM | #66 | |
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A panhard bar does not control roll, but to a Model A driver, when one is fitted, and the body does not feel like it will tip over as it wallows on every corner , he thinks it does, so this is fine . Go the hotrodders here ........ The ideal place for a panhard bar would be from the chassis right across to the other side brake backing plate at a slight uphill angle to the chassis anchor. |
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02-16-2018, 12:44 PM | #67 |
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People seem to be obsessed with the difference between body "roll" and "wallow". If it makes the car drive better for someone what difference does it make?
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02-16-2018, 04:36 PM | #68 |
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Can't speak for anyone else but it is because I'm anal-retentive... My Household CEO is always asking me "Why are you so ANAL about everything?"
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02-17-2018, 01:36 PM | #73 |
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I care about what actually works . I can speak for what works for me . I really don't care what anybody else thinks or does !!!
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02-19-2018, 02:33 PM | #74 |
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On Sunday we put the Panhard bar to the real test. With our 1929 Model A Tudor, we went on a Valentines Skagit Old Car Club tour that also had a breakfast included in the stops. With the recently installed Panhard Bar, I went around several round-abouts racing as fast as I dare and there was NO BODY ROLL while turning to the left. The round-abouts are well crowned for drainage and usually our Tudor had severe body roll on them. Body roll on round-abouts? Not any more. Oh, yes, we had snow when we first left our home. The main roads were clear though. Now I have to find a round-about that turns to the right.
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That's great that you experimented with it for yourself. With respect to "roundabouts that turn right" I believe you will have to go to England or Down Under for that! Maybe Japan, I think they drive on the wrong side of the road too. David Serrano |
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03-05-2018, 03:07 AM | #76 | |
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03-05-2018, 04:55 AM | #77 |
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I'm wondering if it would be possible to put a Panhard Bar from a bracket mounted to one side of the rear axle using the bolts at the brake backing plate, past the back of the diff and to a bracket on the back of the chassis. That would be better than the 1/2 length bar shown if it is possible. The brackets would have to be long enough to clear the diff and the longer they are, the weaker they are.
Would the improvement over the 1/2 length bar be enough to justify the work???
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I don't know if the Model A suspension travel is enough to make a difference either. Looks like something for your next project... Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 03-05-2018 at 11:55 AM. |
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