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JOES31 · 09-01-2015, 10:07 AM

There was a horrible crash in Temple City California involving a Model A yesterday killing both passengers. Names have not been released. I am sure we might know them.
See the link below

http://abc7.com/news/2-killed-after-...flames/964783/

Fullraceflathead · 09-01-2015, 10:35 AM

Sad to hear this. I wonder if something broke in the steering?

C26Pinelake · 09-01-2015, 10:39 AM

Our thoughts and prayers are extended to the family and friends of the two elderly victims. May they rest in peace ! Wayne

ronn · 09-01-2015, 11:20 AM

I would bet a heart attack. sad.

FL&WVMIKE · 09-01-2015, 11:32 AM

Please keep us, updated.
Thank you,
MIKE

(mikeburch)

H. L. Chauvin · 09-01-2015, 12:19 PM

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Hi Joe,

No matter the cause, appears every time we hear that something tragic happened in a Model A, it hits home in that we realize that we have lost loved ones who share in our hobby.

Even though so very sad, much thanks for the reminder to help us remember to realize that anything can happen, in any car on a highway.

Bruce Adams · 09-01-2015, 12:56 PM

Video of tragic crash

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...323555051.html

Oldbluoval · 09-01-2015, 01:03 PM

That is awful. There is no good way to pass out of this world and that is surely one of the worst.
Nine gallons of gas in your lap is never a good thing.
Pray for those who they left behind.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 09-01-2015, 01:21 PM

Whatever the cause was, we'll probably never know.
I've noticed that Barners are ALWAYS DILLIGENT in advising folks how to assemble stuff in a SAFE MANNER.
Bill W.

hardtimes · 09-01-2015, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOES31

There was a horrible crash in Temple City California involving a Model A yesterday killing both passengers. Names have not been released. I sure we might know them.
See the link below

http://abc7.com/news/2-killed-after-...flames/964783/

Hey Joe,
Yeah, saw that on the news last evening....shocking

! Looks like a one car incident, so hard to speculate what the cause was.
I've never ever seen a Model A gas tank spill/split open from wreck. That must have impacted without any braking whatsoever. Good thoughts to their family......

Kevin in NJ · 09-01-2015, 02:11 PM

Some thoughts,

Broken plastic fuel filter, but the flames seemed bigger then that.

The engine was pushed back so I wonder if it tore the fuel tank?

Then I thought maybe a full tank and it got crunched pushing fuel out the top.

Of if there was a gas can inside the car.

One also has to wonder if seat belts might have kept people in their seats and conscious so they might have had a better chance to escape.

Maybe we will hear from someone in the know.

CA Victoria · 09-01-2015, 02:39 PM

We need to lift up their families in prayer., a tragic loss......
A reminder for us all to go over emergency procedures with our passengers. The first conscious effort must be to shut the fuel off.

Blessyouboys · 09-01-2015, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Whatever the cause was, we'll probably never know.
I've noticed that Barners are ALWAYS DILLIGENT in advising folks how to assemble stuff in a SAFE MANNER.
Bill W.

What are you talking about?

WestCoast · 09-01-2015, 02:58 PM

a lot of cars had the gas tank in places they shouldn't have been ,the model a, fuel tank in front and above your feet with it in the cab, v/w also fuel tank in front and above your feet, Renault with the gas tank in the back with the engine, and the jaquar with the tank in the trunk with an electric fuel pump there run by points, a spark every time the points opened, there are others but those are the ones that I have worked on and stick in my memory

BILL WILLIAMSON · 09-01-2015, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blessyouboys

What are you talking about?

Yo' Brother,
Like, steering, brakes, etc.---Things that might cause an ACCIDENT.
Bill W.

George Miller · 09-01-2015, 03:18 PM

Maybe a steering ball welded on or a welded up shortened steering arm.

JOES31 · 09-01-2015, 03:23 PM

They just released the identity of the victims of the crash. Here is the link.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/...n-temple-city/

I guess the only light that can be shed on this tragedy is that maybe they died doing what they liked best.

Tom Endy · 09-01-2015, 03:41 PM

Frank & Christina Izbinski Were Members of the Santa Anita A's of Arcadia, California. They lived in the neighboring city of Temple City where the accident occurred. Their Model A was a 1931 Tudor.

Tom Endy

Blessyouboys · 09-01-2015, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Yo' Brother,
Like, steering, brakes, etc.---Things that might cause an ACCIDENT.
Bill W.

I am not your brother. My name is not 'Yo'.

Go back and read your post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Whatever the cause was, we'll probably never know.
I've noticed that Barners are ALWAYS DILLIGENT in advising folks how to assemble stuff in a SAFE MANNER.
Bill W.

What are you talking about?

Slotblog · 09-01-2015, 04:10 PM

I can't recall ever seeing or hearing of a Model A accident causing a fire as bad as this. Does anyone else?

Damage to the car, what could be seen, doesn't suggest to me that the gas tank was crushed.

Would really like to know more about the dynamics of this terrible tragedy for those of us who drive these cars.

Tom Endy · 09-01-2015, 04:10 PM

The cause of the accident has not been determined. Two people died last night, a little reverence Please.

Tom Endy

Franchise_24 · 09-01-2015, 04:14 PM

Prayers and thoughts to their families.

Ralph Moore · 09-01-2015, 04:15 PM

There were some faulty pitman arms being sold. We had a car club member that ended up in the ditch when his pitman arm ball popped out. There were some that were bolted and others that were "welded", stay away from the welded version.

Slotblog · 09-01-2015, 04:44 PM

Why engage in supposition and conjecture, guys? It doesn't help the hobby we all enjoy.

Lets wait for the facts of what caused this awful accident, if they can be determined.

5window · 09-01-2015, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slotblog

Why engage in supposition and conjecture, guys? It doesn't help the hobby we all enjoy.

Lets wait for the facts of what caused this awful accident, if they can be determined.

Precisely. We can all be saddened and send our condolences. No need to conjecture what went awry or to pick a fight.

Vanspeed · 09-01-2015, 05:23 PM

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Very sad for the loss of life, my condolences are for their family. I understand the need to know what caused the accident but honestly the examiners are not vintage car people and we may never know.

Slotblog · 09-01-2015, 05:27 PM

I'm less interested in what caused the accident than in knowing why this car erupted into such a conflagration.

VFRhugh · 09-01-2015, 05:34 PM

This happened last year in Houston. There might be a lesson in these accidents for all that are growing old. I personally have decided to listen to my adult children when they tell me it's time to let someone else drive. Not saying age had anything to do with these accidents. It's a tough thing for their family's to deal with.

https://hearst-prod-us.janrainsso.co...ed-5935131.php

zzlegend · 09-01-2015, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Endy

The cause of the accident has not been determined. Two people died last night, a little reverence Please.

Tom Endy

Exactly Tom. Sorry for the loss of these two fine people.

Wareagle · 09-01-2015, 06:16 PM

Prayers to the family and may God give you comfort during your time of grief.

Slotblog · 09-01-2015, 06:32 PM

Agree 100%.

mshmodela · 09-01-2015, 07:24 PM

Prayer said.

jax55 · 09-01-2015, 10:18 PM

Our thoughts and prayers go out to those left behind. No matter who it was. they had friends and family who are in shock and grieving. It is a loss for the community.

Roadster62 · 09-01-2015, 10:59 PM

Thoughts and prayers for their family and friends. Bob

09-01-2015, 10:07 AM	#1
JOES31 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: La Verne California Posts: 272	Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA There was a horrible crash in Temple City California involving a Model A yesterday killing both passengers. Names have not been released. I am sure we might know them. See the link below http://abc7.com/news/2-killed-after-...flames/964783/ Last edited by JOES31; 09-02-2015 at 05:30 PM.

09-01-2015, 10:35 AM	#2
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,176	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Sad to hear this. I wonder if something broke in the steering? __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

09-01-2015, 10:39 AM	#3
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Our thoughts and prayers are extended to the family and friends of the two elderly victims. May they rest in peace ! Wayne

09-01-2015, 11:20 AM	#4
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,790	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA I would bet a heart attack. sad.

09-01-2015, 11:32 AM	#5
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,442	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Please keep us, updated. Thank you, MIKE (mikeburch)

09-01-2015, 12:19 PM	#6
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hi Joe, No matter the cause, appears every time we hear that something tragic happened in a Model A, it hits home in that we realize that we have lost loved ones who share in our hobby. Even though so very sad, much thanks for the reminder to help us remember to realize that anything can happen, in any car on a highway.

09-01-2015, 12:56 PM	#7
Bruce Adams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northport, NY Posts: 1,597	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Video of tragic crash http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...323555051.html

09-01-2015, 01:03 PM	#8
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,372	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA That is awful. There is no good way to pass out of this world and that is surely one of the worst. Nine gallons of gas in your lap is never a good thing. Pray for those who they left behind.

09-01-2015, 01:21 PM	#9
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Whatever the cause was, we'll probably never know. I've noticed that Barners are ALWAYS DILLIGENT in advising folks how to assemble stuff in a SAFE MANNER. Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

09-01-2015, 02:11 PM	#11
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Some thoughts, Broken plastic fuel filter, but the flames seemed bigger then that. The engine was pushed back so I wonder if it tore the fuel tank? Then I thought maybe a full tank and it got crunched pushing fuel out the top. Of if there was a gas can inside the car. One also has to wonder if seat belts might have kept people in their seats and conscious so they might have had a better chance to escape. Maybe we will hear from someone in the know.

09-01-2015, 02:39 PM	#12
CA Victoria Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,113	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA We need to lift up their families in prayer., a tragic loss...... A reminder for us all to go over emergency procedures with our passengers. The first conscious effort must be to shut the fuel off. __________________ Tim Downtown, Ca

09-01-2015, 02:58 PM	#14
WestCoast Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: oroville calif Posts: 893	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA a lot of cars had the gas tank in places they shouldn't have been ,the model a, fuel tank in front and above your feet with it in the cab, v/w also fuel tank in front and above your feet, Renault with the gas tank in the back with the engine, and the jaquar with the tank in the trunk with an electric fuel pump there run by points, a spark every time the points opened, there are others but those are the ones that I have worked on and stick in my memory

09-01-2015, 03:18 PM	#16
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Maybe a steering ball welded on or a welded up shortened steering arm.

09-01-2015, 03:23 PM	#17
JOES31 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: La Verne California Posts: 272	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA They just released the identity of the victims of the crash. Here is the link. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/...n-temple-city/ I guess the only light that can be shed on this tragedy is that maybe they died doing what they liked best.

09-01-2015, 03:41 PM	#18
Tom Endy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,131	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Frank & Christina Izbinski Were Members of the Santa Anita A's of Arcadia, California. They lived in the neighboring city of Temple City where the accident occurred. Their Model A was a 1931 Tudor. Tom Endy

09-01-2015, 04:10 PM	#20
Slotblog Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 242	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA I can't recall ever seeing or hearing of a Model A accident causing a fire as bad as this. Does anyone else? Damage to the car, what could be seen, doesn't suggest to me that the gas tank was crushed. Would really like to know more about the dynamics of this terrible tragedy for those of us who drive these cars. __________________ Gregory Wells

09-01-2015, 04:14 PM	#22
Franchise_24 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, Ohio Posts: 782	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Prayers and thoughts to their families. __________________ 1929 Model A Ford Coupe

09-01-2015, 04:15 PM	#23
Ralph Moore Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 1,470	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA There were some faulty pitman arms being sold. We had a car club member that ended up in the ditch when his pitman arm ball popped out. There were some that were bolted and others that were "welded", stay away from the welded version.

09-01-2015, 04:44 PM	#24
Slotblog Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 242	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Why engage in supposition and conjecture, guys? It doesn't help the hobby we all enjoy. Lets wait for the facts of what caused this awful accident, if they can be determined. __________________ Gregory Wells

09-01-2015, 05:23 PM	#26
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,384	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Very sad for the loss of life, my condolences are for their family. I understand the need to know what caused the accident but honestly the examiners are not vintage car people and we may never know. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

09-01-2015, 05:27 PM	#27
Slotblog Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 242	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA I'm less interested in what caused the accident than in knowing why this car erupted into such a conflagration. __________________ Gregory Wells

09-01-2015, 05:34 PM	#28
VFRhugh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 177	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA This happened last year in Houston. There might be a lesson in these accidents for all that are growing old. I personally have decided to listen to my adult children when they tell me it's time to let someone else drive. Not saying age had anything to do with these accidents. It's a tough thing for their family's to deal with. https://hearst-prod-us.janrainsso.co...ed-5935131.php

09-01-2015, 06:16 PM	#30
Wareagle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 63	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Prayers to the family and may God give you comfort during your time of grief. __________________ Jim P. central Ohio 1930 Tudor Sedan 15 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren and loving it!!

09-01-2015, 06:32 PM	#31
Slotblog Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 242	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Agree 100%. __________________ Gregory Wells

09-01-2015, 07:24 PM	#32
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Prayer said. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

09-01-2015, 10:18 PM	#33
jax55 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca Posts: 329	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Our thoughts and prayers go out to those left behind. No matter who it was. they had friends and family who are in shock and grieving. It is a loss for the community.

09-01-2015, 10:59 PM	#34
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: Horrible Model A crash in Temple City CA Thoughts and prayers for their family and friends. Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.