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03-08-2019, 08:52 PM | #1 |
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Engine block thread clean up
Getting ready to inspect and cleanup my spare flatheads ..... I understand the head bolt / stud threads are to be cleaned using a thread chaser or modified bolt due to a friction fit.
What about the cleaning the other bolt threads in the block , thread chaser or normal tap. |
03-08-2019, 09:38 PM | #2 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Normal tap.
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03-08-2019, 09:42 PM | #3 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
If you have them, why not use a thread chaser vs. risking cutting any thread unnecessarily?
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03-08-2019, 09:45 PM | #4 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Being these are just storage blocks. Why chase them?
I believe you want a rolled edge chase on headbolts. The rest are okay to my limited knowledge. . |
03-08-2019, 11:28 PM | #5 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
I only have normal taps , was going to get only the chase taps I needed.
Are there different types of chase taps? Tinker , I have complete motors , partial blocks & want to determine which are useable , thought I would clean all the threads on the good blocks. First flathead disassembly for me , hope the head bolts come out with no problems. |
03-08-2019, 11:37 PM | #6 | |
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Heat, penetrating oil, and patience make all the difference in the world. Spent 15 hours getting the studs out of a 99A block. Sucks, but got them after trying multiple approaches. |
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03-08-2019, 11:45 PM | #7 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
heat, penetration fluid, repeat.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...d-help.943753/ https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...8111&showall=1 |
03-09-2019, 12:00 AM | #8 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Studs & bolts , 1 motor has 2 broken bolts , that's how I got it , already have penetrating oil on the bolt heads .... hoping the rest will come out with out breaking.
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03-09-2019, 12:54 PM | #9 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
You may wish to check for cracks & magnaflux first if you haven't already done so. Save yourself a lot of work.
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03-09-2019, 01:00 PM | #10 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
For the rest of the threads first screw the pertinent bolt into the threaded hole. If it goes in easily,don't mess with it. I don't think it's a good idea to mess with the main bearing cap holes.
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03-09-2019, 01:18 PM | #11 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
I personally don’t use a tap unless I have to. I have been using this set of chasers and they are cheap and work well, just keep the vertical groves in them clean
https://www.amazon.com/Lang-Tools-25...gateway&sr=8-5 |
03-09-2019, 04:15 PM | #12 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Using a threading tap instead of a chasing tap, can result in damage or loss of the threads in the block. The cast iron is usually very soft from the annealing effect of years of heat/cool cycles, and easy to strip.
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03-09-2019, 06:09 PM | #13 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
I recall reading that the threads were not tapped to the bottom of the hole. There was a slight lip left somewhat like a pipe thread to help make a water seal on those studs that went into the water jacket. The differential center section was the same way to help make an oil seal at the bottom of the bolt.
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03-10-2019, 07:07 AM | #14 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Pickup up a Craftsmen set in both inch and metric reasonable.
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03-10-2019, 08:51 AM | #15 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Been using this set of taps from Summit Racing---
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900200/overview/
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03-10-2019, 10:46 AM | #16 |
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I use the same thread chaser set as 35fordtn. It has both fine and course threads
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03-10-2019, 11:43 AM | #17 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
I checked this out on Amazon, and it looks good. I was absolutely flabbergasted at the number of bad reviews that came from people who tried to use them to actually tap new holes and cut new threads. P.T. Barnum was right!
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03-10-2019, 10:28 PM | #18 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
I made mine from a head bolt. Took a 4" angle grinder & cut 3 slots in the threads. Works for me. Just don't go ape & force it, but work it back & forth a little at a time.
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03-11-2019, 05:18 AM | #19 |
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03-11-2019, 12:03 PM | #20 |
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Re: Engine block thread clean up
Thanks for everyone's input & advice.
Tinkers links to some other threads were very helpful as well. My takeaway from the three threads are , test the thread first with a good used bolt or stud to see how tight the thread is , if required clean the threads first using gun barrel brushes & cleaner , only chase the threads if they have been damaged by using a chase tap or a modified head bolt with 3 or 4 slots cut into it. If the threads have been tapped using a normal tap it is not ideal, but thread sealers will prevent leakage & help with stud alignment. The end result is to keep the threads as close to Ford spec as possible, so take your time & do not rush it. Ian |
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