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Old 12-20-2015, 06:59 PM   #1
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Do any of you guys have, or know of, a running engine for sale in the southern NJ, Pa, Delaware area?
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Old 12-20-2015, 07:12 PM   #2
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Says it was running when parked:::
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Old 12-20-2015, 08:17 PM   #4
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$600 for a Model A engine core sounds pretty high. What is the real value of one?

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Some of the engine builders are saying that only 1 block out of 8 are acceptable for a re-build.
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Old 12-20-2015, 08:33 PM   #6
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Some of the engine builders are saying that only 1 block out of 8 are acceptable for a re-build.
Is it because they don't want to do possible repairs?

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Old 12-20-2015, 10:55 PM   #7
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Some of the engine builders are saying that only 1 block out of 8 are acceptable for a re-build.
Its true, the engine rebuilder I went to has a great reputation for his work, outside of his shop were many blocks waiting to go to the scrap yard.
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Is it because they don't want to do possible repairs?

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Its true, the engine rebuilder I went to has a great reputation for his work, outside of his shop were many blocks waiting to go to the scrap yard.
My opinion is just about any block can be repaired so that it will give many years of service. The question is how much are you going to invest in that repair for an engine that does not add value to the final car restoration by being "numbers matching".

A quick look at the internet for engine stitching will reveal repairs to blocks of all kinds with large chunks that have been broken away and replaced. valve seats cracks repaired. With a guess of 6-8 hours of work to locate, repair and test the block, how much would would be added to the repair at going shop rates?

Cannot be repaired, or cannot be repaired at a price we would be willing to pay?
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Old 12-20-2015, 11:51 PM   #9
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Numbers matching is a non issue... Most builders will even stamp the numbers you want for a small fee
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Do any of you guys have, or know of, a running engine for sale in the southern NJ, Pa, Delaware area?
There is a cutaway single cylinder Model A engine that runs on a stand. My point is, what are you going to do with it? The engine can run with one cylinder but would be worthless in a car that is expected to drive on the road.
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Clearly if Tod and or others can get their processes down there is surely a market for new model A blocks.
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:47 AM   #12
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Clearly if Tod and or others can get their processes down there is surely a market for new model A blocks.
When Tod does market the new blocks we will all be stamping our vin #s on them.... Maybe they will have to build a model A jail to house all of us....
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:19 PM   #13
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The engine on my stand right now was a decent running engine with a slight miss. Needs a valve job to cure the miss. Before I put it back together I will have the lower end balanced and put on a lightened flywheel, put in larger intake valves, B cam along with adjusting the shims. Since it is likely I will be running it several years until I can afford to rebuild the original engine the way I want it this one will have to do for now. Rod
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:06 AM   #14
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When Tod does market the new blocks we will all be stamping our vin #s on them.... Maybe they will have to build a model A jail to house all of us....
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Is it because they don't want to do possible repairs?

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Its true, the engine rebuilder I went to has a great reputation for his work, outside of his shop were many blocks waiting to go to the scrap yard.

My opinion is just about any block can be repaired so that it will give many years of service. The question is how much are you going to invest in that repair for an engine that does not add value to the final car restoration by being "numbers matching".

A quick look at the internet for engine stitching will reveal repairs to blocks of all kinds with large chunks that have been broken away and replaced. valve seats cracks repaired. With a guess of 6-8 hours of work to locate, repair and test the block, how much would would be added to the repair at going shop rates?

Cannot be repaired, or cannot be repaired at a price we would be willing to pay?


Mike, do you really want to invest your hard earned cash in a block that had a chunk out of it?
can think of better things to do with my money-for one, support Tod's efforts............

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Old 12-22-2015, 11:50 AM   #16
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I saw a demo video of a crack being "stitched" across a valve seat. They then ground the seat, WITHOUT installing a seat insert & assembled it!! Will it last? I DON'T THINK SO.
I feel that "STITCH" repairs are WAY OVER RATED.
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Old 12-22-2015, 12:06 PM   #17
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I did 2 stitch repairs 6 years ago for friends. Six years later no problems with either. Neither crack extended to the cyls. Saved 2 engines with good bearings etc. from going to the scrap. I am not sure I would have tried either if the cracks went to the cyls. Rod
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Old 12-22-2015, 05:50 PM   #18
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I know its off the orig post but ive seen several engines with fairly recent rebuild that had to be scrapped. crack repair done, pressure check ok, after a few hot/cold cycles start to get water in the oil. Competent engine rebuilders know that so how can they warranty that? better to toss it than roll the dice.
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Until new affordable blocks are being cast, I wouldn't be too quick to scrap an engine. Lots of good repairs can be done by good shops.
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Stitching, sleeves, valve seats esp if it a number matching block.
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