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Old 11-05-2012, 05:50 PM   #81
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As for how builders go and the desire of the U.S. home buyer, I have only one comment.
"Building codes should make installing 220 in all garages mandatory"!

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Old 11-05-2012, 06:53 PM   #82
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As for as builders go and the desire of the U.S. buyer, I have only one comment.
Building codes should make installing 220 in all garages mandatory!
I agree. I can't believe how people go cheap when it only cost a little more to have outlets where needed, proper lighting, and 220. Outlets on the outside of the house and garage should also be code.

My house was built in the early 50's and they didn't even put in grounded outlets, and still used the old screw in fuse box. Cheap, cheap, cheap!
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:35 PM   #83
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We are building a new house this year on 10 acres and luckily I got my shop built first earlier in the year. Can't wait to get my A's and shop equipment moved in. It ended up being 100' x 40' with a 20' x 30' wing. Upstairs has a 40' x 40' loft with full ceiling height for my man cave.

The other part has 20' ceilings for a lift and car racks, and wash bay.

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Old 11-05-2012, 08:51 PM   #84
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[QUOTE=road_king;529020]We are building a new house this year on 10 acres and luckily I got my shop built first earlier in the year. Can't wait to get my A's and shop equipment moved in. It ended up being 100' x 40' with a 25' x 30' wing. Upstairs has a 40' x 40' loft with full ceiling height for my man cave.

The other part has 20' ceilings for a lift and car racks, and wash bay.

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Wow what a shop. I'd be content with the 25 x 30 wing.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:08 PM   #85
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As for as builders go and the desire of the U.S. buyer, I have only one comment.
Building codes should make installing 220 in all garages mandatory!
not money well spent.
only a small number of buyers will use it.
more efficient to retrofit when needed.......
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:13 PM   #86
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I agree. I can't believe how people go cheap when it only cost a little more to have outlets where needed, proper lighting, and 220. Outlets on the outside of the house and garage should also be code.

My house was built in the early 50's and they didn't even put in grounded outlets, and still used the old screw in fuse box. Cheap, cheap, cheap!
Tom, in the early 50's the electrical installation you describe was maybe not "state of the art" but it was definitely "normal" and "typical".
(13 years as an ASHI certified home inspector here)
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:53 PM   #87
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not money well spent.
only a small number of buyers will use it.
more efficient to retrofit when needed.......
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Tell that to my wife when she wants to dry MY clothes while I'm welding patches.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:04 AM   #88
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road king;

I don't think you need to be told that you have an incredible new shop.
I would be interested in seeing the house your building when its complete.

As for the shop I can only imagine how long it would take someone like myself to fill 4000+ sq. ft. with all the items/junk that I'd only use once or never at all.
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road king;

I don't think you need to be told that you have an incredible new shop.
I would be interested in seeing the house your building when its complete.

As for the shop I can only imagine how long it would take someone like myself to fill 4000+ sq. ft. with all the items/junk that I'd only use once or never at all.

Thank you, I'm sure I'll have it filled with old rusty junk pretty quick..

Here's the house of this weekend... I joke that it's my wife's house and mine is the shop!
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:30 AM   #90
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Tell that to my wife when she wants to dry MY clothes while I'm welding patches.
easy fix. add a second 220 circuit.
if I forced myself to settle for the original wiring in my home & garage, I would not be pleased......
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:47 AM   #91
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Wow, some vey nice and very interesting shops. Keep posting.

I have uploaded a photo of my shop. It is an old horse barn.

It smells some what better now!


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"It is an old horse barn.

It smells some what better now!"

Maybe you got use to smelling old horses!
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:43 AM   #93
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easy fix. add a second 220 circuit.
if I forced myself to settle for the original wiring in my home & garage, I would not be pleased......
Not as easy as it would seem, Panel is over loaded now, it would require a second panel. When I built a pool I looked at adding it then but electrician said that due to the placement of my service and the location of my garage/shop I would be looking at a significant investment.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:47 AM   #94
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ok, I stand corrected. not a really easy fix. but still fixable.

when I was in the home repair & restoration business, customers would ask
"can you do __________ ? "
my answer was always "YES".
my follow-up question was what actually made or broke the project:
"are you willing to endure the expense and inconvenience it will involve?"
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:01 PM   #95
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This is my "home away from home" (though home is only 100 feet away). It is 42' X 80' and is stick built on a foundation. The first 24' has a 24' X 28' main shop with lift and a separate 24' X 14' Dirty Room where sanding, painting, etc. is done. These are heated whereas the rest is for storage. The irony is after building it and the house my wife says it should have been 100' long. That meant she wanted twenty more feet than she's already encroached on. I do come to the realization that the more you have the more you fill which for me means more work.
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What a sweet setup Roger
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:29 PM   #97
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Claude built Marge a "hobby" building from old barn wood & it was really neat, looked like it was 107 years old. Her specs were: lots of plugs, good lights, and NO door large enough to let a STRAY car in! Claude "thinks" he has 8 out buildings------???????? Bill W.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:57 PM   #98
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Here is a view of my home shop. My house in the background to the left. I built them. I built the shop in 95 and sided it with rough sawn cedar. The shop is small but it is easy to cool and I really don't need heat. If it gets too cold I just stay in the house and look at the computer or some such.
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Here is a view of my home shop. My house in the background to the left. I built them. I built the shop in 95 and sided it with rough sawn cedar. The shop is small but it is easy to cool and I really don't need heat. If it gets too cold I just stay in the house and look at the computer or some such.
You've got the "coolest" place! Some day I'd like to make a trip to Alabama just to see it all. I spent 6 months in Huntsville while in the Army, and sure liked it there, even though it was very hot and humid.
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Thanks Tom, You are welcome to visit any time. I'm about 100 miles from the bay . It gets real hot and humid in the summer. The coldest days of winter it is a damp cold. We are having nice fall days now. The highs are in the sixties .
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