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Rbolt · 12-06-2010, 11:50 AM

New to the model a was wondering

IrishHills · 12-06-2010, 11:58 AM

I'm new to Model A's too, but think originally it was same as motor number..

http://www.modelahouse.com/cgi-bin/enumbers/numdate

31Tudor · 12-06-2010, 11:58 AM

The frame was stamped with the engine number as the engine was put into the frame. So...the frame number should coincide with the same engine numbering month and date from the engine number charts.

Rbolt · 12-06-2010, 12:04 PM

That maks it Tricky i do not have the original eng

MCHinson · 12-06-2010, 12:05 PM

If you have the frame number, you have the original engine number. The engine number reference page will enable you to approximately date the frame by that number.

Terry, NJ · 12-06-2010, 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 31Tudor

The frame was stamped with the engine number as the engine was put into the frame. So...the frame number should coincide with the same engine numbering month and date from the engine number charts.

Were the Frames and engines numbered on the same day? Or at their respective assembly? My engine number is not the same as the chassis number, which is the same as the title. Engine switch? Or they never did match?
Terry

MCHinson · 12-06-2010, 12:24 PM

The engine number was stamped onto the frame after the engine was dropped into the frame, so your engine has been swapped sometime since the car was built.

Mark Schwing · 12-06-2010, 12:29 PM

Engines were stamped with the engine number the day they were assembled. They might go directly to the vehicle assembly line at Dearborn or they might be shipped to one of the many other Ford assembly plants. When the engine was mated to a chassis, the frame was stamped with the engine number. Over the decades since engines were often replaced the two numbers no longer match. In most cases the number on the frame should be the serial number for title purposes. A rule of thumb is that engines went into a chassis within about three months or less of the engine manufacture.

Rbolt · 12-06-2010, 02:51 PM

THANKS,you guys ...Im learning

Bob Johnson · 12-06-2010, 05:22 PM

Click on link below to find out when a specific engine number was stamped.

LINK

Bob

Steve Plucker · 12-06-2010, 06:07 PM

You can also review my frame article on my website and come close to a time period of production.

Pluck

Rbolt · 12-08-2010, 04:18 PM

Thanks everyone,i seem to have a sept 29 frame and a aug 29 engine

12-06-2010, 11:50 AM	#1
Rbolt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 20	Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# New to the model a was wondering

12-06-2010, 11:58 AM	#2
IrishHills Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Brooklyn, Michigan "Home of M.I.S." Posts: 398	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# I'm new to Model A's too, but think originally it was same as motor number.. http://www.modelahouse.com/cgi-bin/enumbers/numdate

12-06-2010, 11:58 AM	#3
31Tudor Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 611	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# The frame was stamped with the engine number as the engine was put into the frame. So...the frame number should coincide with the same engine numbering month and date from the engine number charts.

12-06-2010, 12:04 PM	#4
Rbolt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 20	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# That maks it Tricky i do not have the original eng

12-06-2010, 12:05 PM	#5
MCHinson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 401	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# If you have the frame number, you have the original engine number. The engine number reference page will enable you to approximately date the frame by that number.

12-06-2010, 12:24 PM	#7
MCHinson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 401	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# The engine number was stamped onto the frame after the engine was dropped into the frame, so your engine has been swapped sometime since the car was built.

12-06-2010, 12:29 PM	#8
Mark Schwing Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 39	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# Engines were stamped with the engine number the day they were assembled. They might go directly to the vehicle assembly line at Dearborn or they might be shipped to one of the many other Ford assembly plants. When the engine was mated to a chassis, the frame was stamped with the engine number. Over the decades since engines were often replaced the two numbers no longer match. In most cases the number on the frame should be the serial number for title purposes. A rule of thumb is that engines went into a chassis within about three months or less of the engine manufacture.

12-06-2010, 02:51 PM	#9
Rbolt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 20	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# THANKS,you guys ...Im learning

12-06-2010, 05:22 PM	#10
Bob Johnson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: California Posts: 979	When was your engine number stamped Click on link below to find out when a specific engine number was stamped. LINK Bob

12-06-2010, 06:07 PM	#11
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# You can also review my frame article on my website and come close to a time period of production. Pluck

12-08-2010, 04:18 PM	#12
Rbolt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 20	Re: Frame?Can you Date a Frame By Vin# Thanks everyone,i seem to have a sept 29 frame and a aug 29 engine