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wingski · 12-21-2017, 10:36 PM

I just dropped the pan on my ’29. My god, that thing is heavy. I forgot how heavy those model A pans were. There was no sludge on the baffle, and it is held in place with some kind of glue. I am going to remove it because I found crud in the hollow pan plug, but I’ve never seen glue around the sides of a baffle before.

Any ideas?

Mike

1930-Pickup · 12-21-2017, 10:41 PM

Some people do 'odd' things. Can you post a photo?

Dan Partain · 12-21-2017, 11:42 PM

You probably wouldn't have to get it very hot with a propane torch to wreck the glue and free it up. It's a pretty tight fit without the glue.

1931 flamingo · 12-22-2017, 07:16 PM

Are you sure it's not some newer style of liquid gasket?? Any idea when the pan was last off? If NO sludge it couldn't have been too long ago.........
Paul in CT

zzlegend · 12-22-2017, 09:32 PM

Now, aren't you glad you drained the oil first?

Jacksonlll · 12-23-2017, 06:50 AM

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Watch those sharp edges, or have a lot of band aids

Licensed to kill · 12-23-2017, 08:45 AM

When I dropped the pan on my '31 the top of the splash tray was clean but I had some sludge in the bottom, less than 1/4" as near as I could tell. There was NO WAY that tray was coming out, at least I couldn't figure out a way to spread the pan enough to relieve the tray from the pan so I cleaned it with the tray in place. A bit of a PITA but got it squeaky clean. If the '28 pan is the same as a '31, I don't know what would compel someone to glue it in.

Tom Wesenberg · 12-23-2017, 09:25 AM

Dropping the pan upside down onto the grass is the easiest way to get the dip tray removed.
Sometimes it needs a bit of push towards the ground, but it always comes out.

100IH · 12-23-2017, 10:07 AM

If it doesn't come out as Tom suggests, stick a 2x2 or a baseball bat onto the hole for the oil pump. Put one foot on the edge of the pan and pry the tray up and out.

mike657894 · 12-23-2017, 12:06 PM

there is a hole in two stroke jetski engines to look at the flywheel. often we find them full of oil to the top. people get some wild ideas some times and rarely read the manual. clean off the glue. I bend the baffle with a large screw driver to get it out and reshape it after its clean. I tried the toss at the ground method it worked but the mess was more than I wanted to deal with.

160B · 12-23-2017, 12:20 PM

The baseball bat in the hole for the oil pumps worked for me!!

Chuck Sea/Tac · 12-24-2017, 06:33 PM

A friend of mine that works on model A’s a lot, made a puller. It works good, but in my opinion, it’s to slow.

Tom Wesenberg · 12-24-2017, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac

A friend of mine that works on model A’s a lot, made a puller. It works good, but in my opinion, it’s to slow.

I don't get it. See #8 and I just drop it in the yard where I don't walk. Any sludge or oil will be gone in a week, or you can lay down newspaper to catch it, then burn it in the backyard fire pit.

1crosscut · 12-25-2017, 09:40 AM

Did you get the tray out?

jjtaber · 12-25-2017, 10:44 AM

Mine was all ready loose when I dropped my pan. I wonder why.

12-21-2017, 10:36 PM	#1
wingski Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Cave Junction, Oregon Posts: 432	Glue in pan? I just dropped the pan on my ’29. My god, that thing is heavy. I forgot how heavy those model A pans were. There was no sludge on the baffle, and it is held in place with some kind of glue. I am going to remove it because I found crud in the hollow pan plug, but I’ve never seen glue around the sides of a baffle before. Any ideas? Mike

12-21-2017, 10:41 PM	#2
1930-Pickup Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: southern California Posts: 725	Re: Glue in pan? Some people do 'odd' things. Can you post a photo? __________________ *"That's my wild unsubstantiated guess, and I'm sticking to it regardless of the facts!"*

12-21-2017, 11:42 PM	#3
Dan Partain Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 556	Re: Glue in pan? You probably wouldn't have to get it very hot with a propane torch to wreck the glue and free it up. It's a pretty tight fit without the glue.

12-22-2017, 07:16 PM	#4
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Glue in pan? Are you sure it's not some newer style of liquid gasket?? Any idea when the pan was last off? If NO sludge it couldn't have been too long ago......... Paul in CT

12-22-2017, 09:32 PM	#5
zzlegend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reseda, Calif. Posts: 2,188	Re: Glue in pan? Now, aren't you glad you drained the oil first?

12-23-2017, 06:50 AM	#6
Jacksonlll Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Michigan-- Member of Oakleaf of MARC Posts: 1,686	Re: Glue in pan? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Watch those sharp edges, or have a lot of band aids

12-23-2017, 08:45 AM	#7
Licensed to kill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Alberta Posts: 930	Re: Glue in pan? When I dropped the pan on my '31 the top of the splash tray was clean but I had some sludge in the bottom, less than 1/4" as near as I could tell. There was NO WAY that tray was coming out, at least I couldn't figure out a way to spread the pan enough to relieve the tray from the pan so I cleaned it with the tray in place. A bit of a PITA but got it squeaky clean. If the '28 pan is the same as a '31, I don't know what would compel someone to glue it in.

12-23-2017, 09:25 AM	#8
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Glue in pan? Dropping the pan upside down onto the grass is the easiest way to get the dip tray removed. Sometimes it needs a bit of push towards the ground, but it always comes out.

12-23-2017, 10:07 AM	#9
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: Glue in pan? If it doesn't come out as Tom suggests, stick a 2x2 or a baseball bat onto the hole for the oil pump. Put one foot on the edge of the pan and pry the tray up and out.

12-23-2017, 12:06 PM	#10
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: Glue in pan? there is a hole in two stroke jetski engines to look at the flywheel. often we find them full of oil to the top. people get some wild ideas some times and rarely read the manual. clean off the glue. I bend the baffle with a large screw driver to get it out and reshape it after its clean. I tried the toss at the ground method it worked but the mess was more than I wanted to deal with.

12-23-2017, 12:20 PM	#11
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Re: Glue in pan? The baseball bat in the hole for the oil pumps worked for me!! __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

12-24-2017, 06:33 PM	#12
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: Glue in pan? A friend of mine that works on model A’s a lot, made a puller. It works good, but in my opinion, it’s to slow.

12-25-2017, 09:40 AM	#14
1crosscut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 1,909	Re: Glue in pan? Did you get the tray out? __________________ Dave / Lincoln Nebraska

12-25-2017, 10:44 AM	#15
jjtaber Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: El Cajon Ca. Posts: 9	Re: Glue in pan? Mine was all ready loose when I dropped my pan. I wonder why.