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HELENT · 06-04-2015, 10:10 AM

hello do you think a vega steering box is better than ford box in a 46 coupe

Andy · 06-04-2015, 10:38 AM

It will steer incredibly easy but wear out fast. They are marginal in a 32. A 525 box would be better.

HELENT · 06-04-2015, 10:41 AM

will it work in 46 with a flathead

NealinCA · 06-04-2015, 10:48 AM

What's wrong with the 46 Ford box? When rebuilt and adjusted correctly, they work well. If it's for the car in your avatar, maybe go to a narrower front tire.

Ol' Ron · 06-04-2015, 01:17 PM

Use a Saginaw 525 with an adapter. or a 605 PS box fits in the sane place,

Krylon32 · 06-04-2015, 02:25 PM

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Sure glad to know the Vega box is marginal in a 32, I better start a recall on the many many 100's I've done!

V8COOPMAN · 06-04-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Krylon32

Sure glad to know the Vega box is marginal in a 32, I better start a recall on the many many 100's I've done!

Well, Andy ain't a newcomer to this stuff, AND........... "marginal in a '32" might have been a LITTLE bit over-stated, but a Vega in a heavy ol' '46 is damned sure more "marginal" than I'd ever feel safe with. A 525 is about as good as it gets, kind'a almost like what Andy said. DD

Krylon32 · 06-04-2015, 03:35 PM

I ain't no newcomer either. I think after all the A thru 34 chassis built with Vega box's by now there would have been news about catastrophic failures. Not to say there may not have been one but in my shop after a few issues with box FR, I've used the North American built OEM box's with no problems, and we're talking a lot of chassis with a lot of miles. 35-48 I agree the only way to go is a 525.

BILL WZOREK · 06-04-2015, 03:52 PM

Problems with the electric steering ? ?

V8COOPMAN · 06-04-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK

Problems with the electric steering ? ?

Hmmmmmm......? DD

BILL WZOREK · 06-04-2015, 04:11 PM

He installed electric steering and at the Moonshine fest he could flat palm his car in & out of any parking spot he wanted to. " VERY " impressive indeed !

Andy · 06-04-2015, 04:54 PM

By marginal I meant they are AT their limit, not over. Anything with more heft needs a stronger box. I have worn out a few with the 150 thousand miles I have on my roadster. A box designed for a aluminum 4 is doing well to steer an iron V8. Gm never designed much with any over kill strength.

HELENT · 06-05-2015, 07:18 AM

the electric steering is just fine great best thing i ever done

BILL WZOREK · 06-05-2015, 07:25 AM

That's good Planning on that electric up grade on SHEBA this year >>

48 coupe · 06-05-2015, 08:01 AM

Looks like I need to get some info on this electric steering. my 48 steers like a tank. Yes I know I should loose the radial tires. Lets hear about the electric steering.

johndee138 · 06-05-2015, 08:13 PM

Yes, let us hear about electric steering.
Steering by Armstrong in my 36 is getting OLD.
Installation pix and pitfalls. Sources for equipment ,cost, gennie parts needed to complete the process. This would be HUGE!!!
Thanks ahead of time.
JM

expavr · 06-05-2015, 10:22 PM

I have a Unisteer EPS system in a 33 Chrysler imperial street rod. After driving the Imperial (3,300# car) for a year without the power steering assist I can attest to the fact the addition made a big difference in driving comfort especially at slow speeds in tight quarters. In addition to ease of vehicle operation the other advantage with EPS is that there is no pump to rob engine HP along with all the plumbing to deal with in the engine compartment. The Imperial steering is rack and pinion which made for a relatively easy install. I think its more involved with a conventional steering box, but still doable. The EPS systems have been around since the 90's. Suzuki and Honda both pioneered the use of them so the technology is proven. To get up on the learning curve I would recommend starting with a search on the HAMB there are a couple of threads that have discussed EPS pro and con.

06-04-2015, 10:10 AM	#1
HELENT Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Hemingway, SC Posts: 212	steering box hello do you think a vega steering box is better than ford box in a 46 coupe

06-04-2015, 10:38 AM	#2
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,771	Re: steering box It will steer incredibly easy but wear out fast. They are marginal in a 32. A 525 box would be better.

06-04-2015, 10:41 AM	#3
HELENT Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Hemingway, SC Posts: 212	Re: steering box will it work in 46 with a flathead

06-04-2015, 10:48 AM	#4
NealinCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Coast, Calif. Posts: 839	Re: steering box What's wrong with the 46 Ford box? When rebuilt and adjusted correctly, they work well. If it's for the car in your avatar, maybe go to a narrower front tire.

06-04-2015, 01:17 PM	#5
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,861	Re: steering box Use a Saginaw 525 with an adapter. or a 605 PS box fits in the sane place,

06-04-2015, 02:25 PM	#6
Krylon32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,489	Re: steering box Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Sure glad to know the Vega box is marginal in a 32, I better start a recall on the many many 100's I've done!

06-04-2015, 03:35 PM	#8
Krylon32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,489	Re: steering box I ain't no newcomer either. I think after all the A thru 34 chassis built with Vega box's by now there would have been news about catastrophic failures. Not to say there may not have been one but in my shop after a few issues with box FR, I've used the North American built OEM box's with no problems, and we're talking a lot of chassis with a lot of miles. 35-48 I agree the only way to go is a 525.

06-04-2015, 03:52 PM	#9
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Re: steering box Problems with the electric steering ? ?

06-04-2015, 04:11 PM	#11
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Re: steering box He installed electric steering and at the Moonshine fest he could flat palm his car in & out of any parking spot he wanted to. " VERY " impressive indeed !

06-04-2015, 04:54 PM	#12
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,771	Re: steering box By marginal I meant they are AT their limit, not over. Anything with more heft needs a stronger box. I have worn out a few with the 150 thousand miles I have on my roadster. A box designed for a aluminum 4 is doing well to steer an iron V8. Gm never designed much with any over kill strength.

06-05-2015, 07:18 AM	#13
HELENT Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Hemingway, SC Posts: 212	Re: steering box the electric steering is just fine great best thing i ever done

06-05-2015, 07:25 AM	#14
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Re: steering box That's good Planning on that electric up grade on SHEBA this year >>

06-05-2015, 08:01 AM	#15
48 coupe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shell Knob Missouri Posts: 151	Re: steering box Looks like I need to get some info on this electric steering. my 48 steers like a tank. Yes I know I should loose the radial tires. Lets hear about the electric steering.

06-05-2015, 08:13 PM	#16
johndee138 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 505	Re: steering box Yes, let us hear about electric steering. Steering by Armstrong in my 36 is getting OLD. Installation pix and pitfalls. Sources for equipment ,cost, gennie parts needed to complete the process. This would be HUGE!!! Thanks ahead of time. JM

06-05-2015, 10:22 PM	#17
expavr Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hansville, WA Posts: 776	Re: steering box I have a Unisteer EPS system in a 33 Chrysler imperial street rod. After driving the Imperial (3,300# car) for a year without the power steering assist I can attest to the fact the addition made a big difference in driving comfort especially at slow speeds in tight quarters. In addition to ease of vehicle operation the other advantage with EPS is that there is no pump to rob engine HP along with all the plumbing to deal with in the engine compartment. The Imperial steering is rack and pinion which made for a relatively easy install. I think its more involved with a conventional steering box, but still doable. The EPS systems have been around since the 90's. Suzuki and Honda both pioneered the use of them so the technology is proven. To get up on the learning curve I would recommend starting with a search on the HAMB there are a couple of threads that have discussed EPS pro and con.