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cooke · 11-24-2012, 06:56 PM

Is the F100 steering box worth the money?? or would I be better off restoring the one I have. I will be doing a LOT of driving this summer.

Thanks, Martin

Jordan · 11-24-2012, 07:01 PM

I like mine. If you're going for a driver and not a points car, it's worth it I feel like. And it's not something that sticks out like a sore thumb.

columbiA · 11-24-2012, 08:11 PM

If you have the 2-tooth box,then rebuild & modify it & it will steer very easily.On my A,s I installed needle sector brg,s & had inside end of sector hsg cut back 0.140" for needle thrust brg to replace brass washer. Thrust brg-INA #TC1828 & thrust washer INA # TWC1828.For oil seal use C/R 11124 or C/R 11061.Bore sector hsg to 1.624 X.250 deep.I also used a short pitman arm & teflon ball seats on new steering balls.It steers so easy that I wouldnt even think of useing an F-100 steering box & it looks original.

CarlG · 11-24-2012, 08:26 PM

Each to his own, but I like my F100 box. By the time you do everything that Columbia suggests, you no longer have an original box anyway. And as Jordan says, the F100 box doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like some "mods" do.

Tom Wesenberg · 11-24-2012, 08:41 PM

Like Vince said, a rebuilt original steering is a joy to drive, and if you want even easier steering just install the shorter pitman arm. There's a night and day difference between driving with a worn original and a restored original steering box.

Pete · 11-24-2012, 08:42 PM

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The stock one will work fine if in good shape.
If you need power feel steering because of medical problems, (arthritis etc) the F100 will give you that. You can steer them with one finger and they return by themselves.
I like mine bacause I like quicker steering so I have a longer pitman arm on it.
It's cheaper to rebuild the stock one.

columbiA · 11-24-2012, 10:19 PM

CarlG The mods that I suggested for the 2-tooth box are all internal,so outward appearance is unchanged other than the shorter P-arm.If you put a C B crank in an A,then it is no longer original either!

CarlG · 11-24-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by columbiA

CarlG The mods that I suggested for the 2-tooth box are all internal,so outward appearance is unchanged other than the shorter P-arm.If you put a C B crank in an A,then it is no longer original either!

Or an overdrive

socalplanedoc · 11-24-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fordgarage

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I think a lot of people just have some kind of OCD that causes them to change things and call it an improvement.

like replacing the T with the A.. then making a V8..

Henry must have been OCD too....

Pete · 11-25-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by socalplanedoc

like replacing the T with the A.. then making a V8..

Henry must have been OCD too....

hee hee

miss victoria · 11-25-2012, 10:23 AM

Ive never seen or had a stock steering box steer as good as one of my f100 kits, not braging just fact.(on ebay $650.00)

Logan · 11-25-2012, 11:17 AM

Even if you have a perfectly restored original box with everything set up perfectly on the front end it still will not steer as nice as a f100 box would on that same front end. There is 20+ years of engineering improvements between the stock box and the f100. I have one of the f100's in my car and it works beautifully. But do I think everyone should rush out and get one, no. Mines on my car because my grandpa owned the car before me and he was 78 years old weighed 135 pounds without a ounce of muscle on him. There's no way he could have driven the car up until he passed away without that steering box. He just didn't have the muscle left to turn it sitting still. With the f100 he could steer it sittin still with little to no problems. I think that the stock box works fine, but for people that have no plans to go into judging or need something easier because they physically cannot steer the stock box anymore that it's okay to switch. the box mounts strait to the stock locations and can be removed with not trace of it ever being there.

jerry shook · 11-26-2012, 07:23 AM

I have the f-100 from mell goss and it works great. 10 times better then the original i had before, an it was new rebuilt easy steer kit and short pittman arm. Some people just dont like change.

Walt Dupont--Me. · 11-26-2012, 09:06 AM

I have the F-100 box in my 31 coupe, just like power steering, I made and adapter on the bottom for the light switch and nobody noticed I changed it. Walt

WILLIAM KERR · 11-26-2012, 06:13 PM

What is a f100?

Pete · 11-26-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLIAM KERR

What is a f100?

If you have a computer, try Google with "F100 steering".

Jim in S.C. · 11-26-2012, 06:30 PM

I have a f-100 box from Miss Victoria and I LOVE IT!

CarlG · 11-26-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in S.C.

I have a f-100 box from Miss Victoria and I LOVE IT!

Same here!

Chris Haynes · 11-27-2012, 01:27 AM

I just drove a friends 1950 F1. I must say the steering in it was a wonderful surprise. So what year is the best F100 steering box to get?

bigguy · 11-27-2012, 08:29 AM

does the car need to be rewired with the f-100 box or can the stock switch be used?

11-24-2012, 06:56 PM	#1
cooke Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Higganum, CT Posts: 63	F100 steering box Is the F100 steering box worth the money?? or would I be better off restoring the one I have. I will be doing a LOT of driving this summer. Thanks, Martin

11-24-2012, 07:01 PM	#2
Jordan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ft. Worth Posts: 1,006	Re: F100 steering box I like mine. If you're going for a driver and not a points car, it's worth it I feel like. And it's not something that sticks out like a sore thumb. __________________ Cowtown A's

11-24-2012, 08:11 PM	#3
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: F100 steering box If you have the 2-tooth box,then rebuild & modify it & it will steer very easily.On my A,s I installed needle sector brg,s & had inside end of sector hsg cut back 0.140" for needle thrust brg to replace brass washer. Thrust brg-INA #TC1828 & thrust washer INA # TWC1828.For oil seal use C/R 11124 or C/R 11061.Bore sector hsg to 1.624 X.250 deep.I also used a short pitman arm & teflon ball seats on new steering balls.It steers so easy that I wouldnt even think of useing an F-100 steering box & it looks original.

11-24-2012, 08:26 PM	#4
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: F100 steering box Each to his own, but I like my F100 box. By the time you do everything that Columbia suggests, you no longer have an original box anyway. And as Jordan says, the F100 box doesn't stick out like a sore thumb like some "mods" do. Last edited by CarlG; 11-24-2012 at 10:02 PM.

11-24-2012, 08:41 PM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: F100 steering box Like Vince said, a rebuilt original steering is a joy to drive, and if you want even easier steering just install the shorter pitman arm. There's a night and day difference between driving with a worn original and a restored original steering box.

11-24-2012, 08:42 PM	#6
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,409	Re: F100 steering box Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The stock one will work fine if in good shape. If you need power feel steering because of medical problems, (arthritis etc) the F100 will give you that. You can steer them with one finger and they return by themselves. I like mine bacause I like quicker steering so I have a longer pitman arm on it. It's cheaper to rebuild the stock one.

11-24-2012, 10:19 PM	#7
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: F100 steering box CarlG The mods that I suggested for the 2-tooth box are all internal,so outward appearance is unchanged other than the shorter P-arm.If you put a C B crank in an A,then it is no longer original either!

11-25-2012, 10:23 AM	#11
miss victoria Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 310	Re: F100 steering box Ive never seen or had a stock steering box steer as good as one of my f100 kits, not braging just fact.(on ebay $650.00)

11-25-2012, 11:17 AM	#12
Logan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 1,055	Re: F100 steering box Even if you have a perfectly restored original box with everything set up perfectly on the front end it still will not steer as nice as a f100 box would on that same front end. There is 20+ years of engineering improvements between the stock box and the f100. I have one of the f100's in my car and it works beautifully. But do I think everyone should rush out and get one, no. Mines on my car because my grandpa owned the car before me and he was 78 years old weighed 135 pounds without a ounce of muscle on him. There's no way he could have driven the car up until he passed away without that steering box. He just didn't have the muscle left to turn it sitting still. With the f100 he could steer it sittin still with little to no problems. I think that the stock box works fine, but for people that have no plans to go into judging or need something easier because they physically cannot steer the stock box anymore that it's okay to switch. the box mounts strait to the stock locations and can be removed with not trace of it ever being there. __________________ Cowtown A's

11-26-2012, 07:23 AM	#13
jerry shook Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 516	Re: F100 steering box I have the f-100 from mell goss and it works great. 10 times better then the original i had before, an it was new rebuilt easy steer kit and short pittman arm. Some people just dont like change.

11-26-2012, 09:06 AM	#14
Walt Dupont--Me. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gardiner Me. Posts: 4,200	Re: F100 steering box I have the F-100 box in my 31 coupe, just like power steering, I made and adapter on the bottom for the light switch and nobody noticed I changed it. Walt

11-26-2012, 06:13 PM	#15
WILLIAM KERR Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Brooklyn, Michigan Posts: 2	Re: F100 steering box What is a f100?

11-26-2012, 06:30 PM	#17
Jim in S.C. Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 72	Re: F100 steering box I have a f-100 box from Miss Victoria and I LOVE IT!

11-27-2012, 01:27 AM	#19
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,832	Re: F100 steering box I just drove a friends 1950 F1. I must say the steering in it was a wonderful surprise. So what year is the best F100 steering box to get? __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

11-27-2012, 08:29 AM	#20
bigguy Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: chesapeake va Posts: 30	Re: F100 steering box does the car need to be rewired with the f-100 box or can the stock switch be used?