05-31-2012, 02:22 PM | #1 |
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Okay guys to start this off I am in no means a mechanic. So she wont start actually I drove her to a show and wouldnt start afterwards so had her flatbedded home. I cant figure out where to start and what to start with in figuring out why she wont run. Please be gentle I have seen some of you be pretty hard on guys who are uninformeded on the Mechanics of a Vehicle...Thanks for your help in advance,,,Tim
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05-31-2012, 02:29 PM | #2 |
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Check that your ignition system will fire a spark to the plugs. check to see if gas is getting to the engine.
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Did she turn over and never fire? Or no turnover?
Start with the battery, is it charged up? Will it hold a charge? Do you have a spark? Do you have fuel at the carb? Probably something simple. Bob |
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Brentwood and J Franklin are on the right track. Start with this and tell us what you find. Don't start replacing random parts. Start with the small things
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I will check these things when I get home..It does turn over I did check at the carb and it is getting gas to there. Will pull a plug when I get home and check for spark. I did have someone help (should say do and me watch ) put modern point in it not long ago.
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Okay sorry havent got back to you but been out of town alot lately...Not getting any spark where should or should I say what do you think I should replace first ???
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I would get a test light and make sure you got power going everywhere. I.E ignition,coil,starter,amp meter, cutout and points. Before replacing parts try and see what park of the connection isn't working.
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One time a man couldn't get his Model A to start even though it had been running perfectly just before turning it off and asked me to check it out. After a few minutes checking stuff with my $10 electrical tester I found the problem. Turned out the problem was the coil wire to the distributer had fallen down slightly, but was still stuck in the coil, but not enough to make contact. Sometimes a simple thing will be the hardest to spot. Do you have one of those 30 amp safety fuses mounted on the starter?
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I will check the ignition wire where it goes into the distributor also check the coil wire. I have bought a voltage reader but dont know how to use it so this should be a new experience. It is very frustrating not knowing how to work on this vehicle it is time I learned..Will update you tomorrow..Thanks Again
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You need to get Les Andrew's book, vol 1, at a minimum, available from any of the vendor's, and keep coming back here.
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Some possibilities are:
1.Blown or defective fuse (use of a fuse is an aftermarket item) 2.Bad connections at ammeter, or ammeter itself (ti find out put a jumper wire from one post of the terminal box to the other to take the ammeter out of the circuit temporarily) 3.Bad ignition switch and/or cable, or loose cable connection at switch. 4.Loose or broken wires at bottom of coil 5.Loose or broken wires inside terminal box 6.Loose, bare or broken pigtail wire under distributor plate, or wire grounding to plate or distributor body 7.Points not opening, or point arm grounding to cam due to worn rubbing block 8.Worn electrode in underside of distributor cap 9.Loose or broken high tension wire from coil to cap 10.Condenser burned out or grounding (some condensers are too long and can touch the distributor body inside) 11.Weak coil 12.Rotor not turning due to loose cam screw or bad timing gear. Ok now break out a volt meter (a light bulb can give false readings). Start at the fuse block, you should have voltage on both sides of the fuse. If you only have voltage on one side, replace the fuse of fuse block. Now with voltage on both sides of the fuse, move up to the junction box. There should be voltage at both terminals. If voltage is present only on one side the problem is at the ampmeter and you should Jumper the ampmeter for now. You should have voltage on both sides of the coil. If not, remove the red wire on the coil and check again. If you now have voltage on both sides, you have a problem further on. If the voltage is still only in one side you have a bad coil. Open the points with a piece of paper and remove the condenser. Turn the key on and you should have voltage at the points. Replace the condenser and you should still have voltage. If voltage is missing, remove the top plate and check for voltage on the bottom plate. Check is the connector from the ignition switch screwed in to far? Do you have voltage on the wire to the upper plate? Is this wire shorting to ground or broken? Are the point closing. Let us know what you find.
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check the gas cap for vaporlock most repop have that problems
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Can't believe it guys but spent the morning looking her over and found the fuse by the starter blown replaced it and she fired right up..Thanks for your help glad to have her back on the road
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REPLACE those add on fuse holders with a 30 amp G.M. blade type circuit breaker & the little fuse holder lead that's made to accomodate it. While tracing dead shorts, it just clicks off & on while trouble shooing, when it stays on, you just found that _*^%$&^# short. Now just fix it! It's usually a minor repair when you've found the DAMNED THING! Don't get perplexed. Always seems worse & more mysterious when it's on YOUR own car. MEN designed and built this contraption and US MEN can diagnose & repair it's ills. (CHIEF said so!) Many problems are caused by US. Bill W.
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I use the tube type replacement circuit breaker. Pulled out the fuse and put in the autoresetable breaker.
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So Mike you say there is a circuit type breaker the=at will fit in the fuse holder?? My next venture is to go over her and check all grounds as a number of you have said to make sure all have good contact. I know minor repair but sure felt good to find it nyself ( of course with alot of direction from you guys ) and see her start running again...Thanks Guys
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Ok here is a new issue. The truck started fine Saturday drove it for about 40 miles not one hiccup. Pulled in the drive shut it of and left it set for 1/2 hour went to start it it wouldnt start and now again no spark. This really gets tiresome.
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you can check everything very easily with a testlight do you have one?
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I have found the after market fuse holders to be problematic. Some times the brass clips loose their tension & act like a blown fuse.I use the 30 amp square breaker & mount it in the same spot as the fuse holder on the starter.
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Morale of this story is don't assume the glass fuse is fine by looking at it, as you may also have to check it with a meter to be sure. |
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Sorry guys I have been away at work again but its a long weekend and time to.dig into the a . Will keep you posted just gets frustrating when you think you have it drive somwhere and bingo she won't start.
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Mine wouldn't start yesterday and I had to clean the points.
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Mine would not start today at a marriage registry office while I was using it for my nephew's wedding. I persuaded myself it was due to the crazy angle the car was parked due to a hill. After 2 minutes of attempts to start, it occurred to me I had not turned the fuel on.
And to have messed up so publicly in front of all the wedding guests. At least the rest of the 100 mile round trip was uneventful. Roly |
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