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Ed in Maine · 12-12-2023, 07:28 PM

Last year I purchased a Standard Coil and it just failed. The coil is open when it gets warmed up. I have found the on a cold start it will work but after a few minutes with 6V applied there is no spark.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good quality coil to purchase? Ed

bobbader · 12-12-2023, 07:37 PM

Ed, you didn't share where you got the current coil. Model A vendor? NAPA store? Other national franchise? I'd assume most Model A vendors sell the same coil and I have not heard of widespread problems.

You might try FS Ignitions for something better as they sell coils all day long with their electronic ignition systems. They have a reputation for high quality products.

Herb Concord Ca · 12-12-2023, 07:43 PM

If you shake your new coil and can here liquid sloshing around. That coil won't work being mounted upside down (normal for a Model A). Follow Bob's advice.

AL in NY · 12-12-2023, 08:17 PM

I agree, call FSI. Be sure you order an epoxy filled coil.

rotorwrench · 12-12-2023, 08:30 PM

I still use Echlin ignition products. NAPA still handles the line after it was purchased by Standard Motor Parts. The 1.5 Ohm primary type works for 6-volt. Model A coils were high tension tower down and they used tar as an internal insulator.

Just be careful to insure you always turn the ignition OFF. Many a coil had been killed by inadvertently leaving ignition on with breaker points closed. A coil turns into an electromagnet when energized and they will overheat.

Gene F · 12-12-2023, 08:47 PM

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I agree with what rotowrench says. One that was less than a year old died on my streetrod too. Hoenestly I think they are mostly made in China, and not made very well.

Ordsgt · 12-12-2023, 09:23 PM

I switched to the FSI coil that is epoxy filled never leak and it has greater output, better spark

Gene F · 12-12-2023, 09:35 PM

What is FSI ?

Joe K · 12-12-2023, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene F

What is FSI ?

FS Ignitions https://www.fsignitions.com/

A little pricey - but quality.

Three axioms of the marketplace. You want it fast, you want it cheap, you want it quality. You get two of three.

Joe K

Synchro909 · 12-12-2023, 10:50 PM

Ditto turn the coil over - terminals at the top.

nkaminar · 12-13-2023, 07:48 AM

I have used Bosch high performance coils. But be careful when ordering online because there are fake brand name products out there that do not have the quality of the real name brands.

mdsbob · 12-13-2023, 01:29 PM

I recently bought an "Oil Filled" Standard Motor Products coil for application on another of my antique cars. The instructions with it didn't make any mention of recommendation/restrictions on mounting orientation.
So, I wrote to their technical support asking if the coil could be mounted upside down.
This is the reply I got: "Ignition coil can be mounted in any orientation."

Of course if the seal fails and the oil leaks out, then obviously the coil will eventually fail.

Ed in Maine · 12-13-2023, 03:37 PM

I bought this coil on Amazon, they had a special for (3) at $29.95! I guess they saw me coming and cleared their inventory. Ed

Y-Blockhead · 12-14-2023, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe K

FS Ignitions https://www.fsignitions.com/

A little pricey - but quality.

Three axioms of the marketplace. You want it fast, you want it cheap, you want it quality. You get two of three.

Joe K

FSI uses Pertronix Flame Thrower Coils. You can get them cheaper elsewhere. They have them in 1.5 or 3.0 ohm, epoxy or oil filled.

Bob-A · 12-14-2023, 10:27 AM

I use a Pertronix Flame Thrower 6 volt epoxy coil on my '31 roadster. I bought it off eBay some years ago for around $50, I think. It did seem to perk up the idle and acceleration some.

Bob-A

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all....

12-12-2023, 07:28 PM	#1
Ed in Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cty., ME or Flagler Cty., FL Posts: 1,106	Failed 6v Coil Last year I purchased a Standard Coil and it just failed. The coil is open when it gets warmed up. I have found the on a cold start it will work but after a few minutes with 6V applied there is no spark. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good quality coil to purchase? Ed

12-12-2023, 07:37 PM	#2
bobbader Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 271	Re: Failed 6v Coil Ed, you didn't share where you got the current coil. Model A vendor? NAPA store? Other national franchise? I'd assume most Model A vendors sell the same coil and I have not heard of widespread problems. You might try FS Ignitions for something better as they sell coils all day long with their electronic ignition systems. They have a reputation for high quality products.

12-12-2023, 07:43 PM	#3
Herb Concord Ca Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Concord CA Posts: 637	Re: Failed 6v Coil If you shake your new coil and can here liquid sloshing around. That coil won't work being mounted upside down (normal for a Model A). Follow Bob's advice.

12-12-2023, 08:17 PM	#4
AL in NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Upstate New York Posts: 1,160	Re: Failed 6v Coil I agree, call FSI. Be sure you order an epoxy filled coil. __________________ AL in NY

12-12-2023, 08:30 PM	#5
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,436	Re: Failed 6v Coil I still use Echlin ignition products. NAPA still handles the line after it was purchased by Standard Motor Parts. The 1.5 Ohm primary type works for 6-volt. Model A coils were high tension tower down and they used tar as an internal insulator. Just be careful to insure you always turn the ignition OFF. Many a coil had been killed by inadvertently leaving ignition on with breaker points closed. A coil turns into an electromagnet when energized and they will overheat.

12-12-2023, 08:47 PM	#6
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: Failed 6v Coil Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I agree with what rotowrench says. One that was less than a year old died on my streetrod too. Hoenestly I think they are mostly made in China, and not made very well.

12-12-2023, 09:23 PM	#7
Ordsgt Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Yorktown Virginia Posts: 182	Re: Failed 6v Coil I switched to the FSI coil that is epoxy filled never leak and it has greater output, better spark

12-12-2023, 09:35 PM	#8
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: Failed 6v Coil What is FSI ?

12-12-2023, 10:50 PM	#10
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Failed 6v Coil Ditto turn the coil over - terminals at the top. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

12-13-2023, 07:48 AM	#11
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,897	Re: Failed 6v Coil I have used Bosch high performance coils. But be careful when ordering online because there are fake brand name products out there that do not have the quality of the real name brands. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

12-13-2023, 01:29 PM	#12
mdsbob Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 47	Re: Failed 6v Coil I recently bought an "Oil Filled" Standard Motor Products coil for application on another of my antique cars. The instructions with it didn't make any mention of recommendation/restrictions on mounting orientation. So, I wrote to their technical support asking if the coil could be mounted upside down. This is the reply I got: "Ignition coil can be mounted in any orientation." Of course if the seal fails and the oil leaks out, then obviously the coil will eventually fail.

12-13-2023, 03:37 PM	#13
Ed in Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cty., ME or Flagler Cty., FL Posts: 1,106	Re: Failed 6v Coil I bought this coil on Amazon, they had a special for (3) at $29.95! I guess they saw me coming and cleared their inventory. Ed

12-14-2023, 10:27 AM	#15
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: Failed 6v Coil I use a Pertronix Flame Thrower 6 volt epoxy coil on my '31 roadster. I bought it off eBay some years ago for around $50, I think. It did seem to perk up the idle and acceleration some. Bob-A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all....