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rosenkranswa · 01-21-2016, 03:33 PM

I have a 1930 Town Sedan with whitewalls (don't shoot me, I like it). All four are the same make and installed at the same time. I clean them with Blech White about once a year which leaves them nice and white. One of the four for some reason turns brown very fast, you can almost watch it change. Cleans up fine, but will be almost tan in a couple months sitting in the garage. No evident difference from the other three other than the rapid color change. Doesn't seem to relate to sun exposure.

Any idea why one tire would change so fast, and what to do about it, other than put on four new blackwalls?

C26Pinelake · 01-21-2016, 03:36 PM

Did you contact the dealer / manufacturer and ask for it to be replaced ? Wayne

Tiny · 01-21-2016, 03:44 PM

Does that tire see more sun than the others? Like maybe the sun comes in from a window or open door and hits that one more? Or it could be its just from a different batch?

Maybe the neighbors dog doesn't like your whitwalls

modelAtony · 01-21-2016, 04:01 PM

Are the ww 's Firestone ? If so it seems they brown a little have never had this with Goodyear. I have been lucky with my 29 Roadster It has Firestone now for 5 years and they have always been easy to keep white. Tudor has always run Goodyear. Have fun modelAtony tony white Lafayette, LA

DougVieyra · 01-21-2016, 04:57 PM

Soft-beige stain the other three.

Gil Sissons · 01-21-2016, 05:17 PM

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I would suggest keeping a eye on your neighbors
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Gil. NoCal

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-21-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gil Sissons

I would suggest keeping a eye on your neighbors
Big dog when he comes strolling through your place....
Gil. NoCal

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Buster T.

Jwilli · 01-21-2016, 06:15 PM

Well, I was thinking it might be a dog or cat's favorite tire.

bobpo1 · 01-21-2016, 06:44 PM

My '30 coupe has 6 Firestone w/w's and they seem to discolor at the same time. Of course I keep in inside. They will discolor in about year. They're about 5 yrs old.

todd3131 · 01-21-2016, 07:59 PM

I had the same problem with my Goodyear's it was a flaw in the tire they told me it had to do with the heat when they made it. I had to replace it. And now it is time to replace all of them. I have had this set on it since 75 I think they done well and they are easy to keep up.

mshmodela · 01-21-2016, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosenkranswa

I have a 1930 Town Sedan with whitewalls (don't shoot me, I like it). All four are the same make and installed at the same time. I clean them with Blech White about once a year which leaves them nice and white. One of the four for some reason turns brown very fast, you can almost watch it change. Cleans up fine, but will be almost tan in a couple months sitting in the garage. No evident difference from the other three other than the rapid color change. Doesn't seem to relate to sun exposure.

Any idea why one tire would change so fast, and what to do about it, other than put on four new blackwalls?

With all the cars you have, why not have an A with white walls

30 Tudor and Coupe · 01-21-2016, 08:36 PM

On our Tudor and Coupe with ww's, the right rear discolors faster than the others. That is the tire closest to the tailpipe and I surmise that has something to do with it.

rosenkranswa · 01-22-2016, 10:21 AM

Thanks for all the input folks. Definitely not the local fauna, and its one of the tires that's normally away from the windows in the garage. I think I'm going to go with the heat flaw in the manufacturing theory. Not a big deal, just annoying.

burner31 · 01-22-2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DougVieyra

Soft-beige stain the other three.

You crack me up

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-22-2016, 10:59 AM

Even BLACKWALLS sometime have a problem of turning BROWN!!! S**T happens! FEW things are PERFECT!
Bill W.

jm29henry · 01-22-2016, 08:53 PM

I believe that the bleach may cause the browning of your tire according to Brattons they tell,you to you'se simple green to clean your white walls ,I also believe that croker,has the same warning.

Larry Jenkins · 01-22-2016, 09:09 PM

Try this. It worked on my first A, a 31 Deluxe Roadster with Goodyear diamond tread whitewalls.

Murphy's Oil Soap. Because it will turn the white really white, I think there might be a bleaching agent in it.

Brush some on the tires, full strength. Let sit for about a half hour. Scrub with a steel wool or Scotchbrite pad and some running water. Let dry naturally. They should be the "new" white again.

If you do try this, tell the Gang what happened..

Larry

Mike V. Florida · 01-23-2016, 12:26 AM

Have you tried any kind of tire shine on the tires after cleaning. That stopped my Universals from turning brown.

Dick Carne · 01-23-2016, 12:36 AM

I had two sets replaced on my Town Sedan - apparently a manufacturing defect with Firestone (and possibly others) in the production process several years back. This latest set that I switched out seems to be staying white now with little maintenance. I don't believe that it has anything to do with sunlight, exhaust heat, tire cleaners, or the neighbor's dog. I would recommend contacting the folks you bought the tires from and asking them about some sort of swap or adjustment. I dealt with Coker Tire and they seemed cooperative on both occasions. Good luck regardless.

Dick

Tom Wesenberg · 01-23-2016, 01:32 AM

We had our monthly Model A meeting last night, and the guest speaker was a guy that owns a tire shop. He brought in some 19" radials and some 21" Firestone tires. Both types had very substantial sidewalls and a nice thick tread. He gave a slide show presentation showing how the tires are made. The radials don't come in 21" yet, but for a car that gets driven a fair amount I'd go with the radial tires. For my 28 or 29 I'd be glad to have a set of those Firestone tires.

01-21-2016, 03:33 PM	#1
rosenkranswa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Malvern, PA Posts: 361	Whitewall question I have a 1930 Town Sedan with whitewalls (don't shoot me, I like it). All four are the same make and installed at the same time. I clean them with Blech White about once a year which leaves them nice and white. One of the four for some reason turns brown very fast, you can almost watch it change. Cleans up fine, but will be almost tan in a couple months sitting in the garage. No evident difference from the other three other than the rapid color change. Doesn't seem to relate to sun exposure. Any idea why one tire would change so fast, and what to do about it, other than put on four new blackwalls? __________________ Wayne @ Barb Malvern '19 T Speedster '26 T Touring '29 A Roadster '30 AA Stakebed '30 A Pickup '30 A Town Sedan '31 A Station Wagon '38 Columbia Girls bike (WWII) '40 Elgin Boys bike (WWII) '42 Super Deluxe Tudor '42 Willys MB Jeep '43 Willys MBT Trailer '43 M3A4 Hand Cart '43 Harley Davidson 42WLA with sidecar

01-21-2016, 03:36 PM	#2
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: Whitewall question Did you contact the dealer / manufacturer and ask for it to be replaced ? Wayne

01-21-2016, 03:44 PM	#3
Tiny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Redding Cal Posts: 1,388	Re: Whitewall question Does that tire see more sun than the others? Like maybe the sun comes in from a window or open door and hits that one more? Or it could be its just from a different batch? Maybe the neighbors dog doesn't like your whitwalls __________________ Blackwall Panthers Nor Cal chapter

01-21-2016, 04:01 PM	#4
modelAtony Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: lafayette,la Posts: 459	Re: Whitewall question Are the ww 's Firestone ? If so it seems they brown a little have never had this with Goodyear. I have been lucky with my 29 Roadster It has Firestone now for 5 years and they have always been easy to keep white. Tudor has always run Goodyear. Have fun modelAtony tony white Lafayette, LA

01-21-2016, 04:57 PM	#5
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Whitewall question Soft-beige stain the other three.

01-21-2016, 05:17 PM	#6
Gil Sissons Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: No Cal Posts: 224	Re: Whitewall question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I would suggest keeping a eye on your neighbors Big dog when he comes strolling through your place.... Gil. NoCal Last edited by Gil Sissons; 01-21-2016 at 05:19 PM. Reason: spelling

01-21-2016, 06:15 PM	#8
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Re: Whitewall question Well, I was thinking it might be a dog or cat's favorite tire.

01-21-2016, 06:44 PM	#9
bobpo1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 301	Re: Whitewall question My '30 coupe has 6 Firestone w/w's and they seem to discolor at the same time. Of course I keep in inside. They will discolor in about year. They're about 5 yrs old.

01-21-2016, 07:59 PM	#10
todd3131 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: cedar rapids iowa Posts: 527	Re: Whitewall question I had the same problem with my Goodyear's it was a flaw in the tire they told me it had to do with the heat when they made it. I had to replace it. And now it is time to replace all of them. I have had this set on it since 75 I think they done well and they are easy to keep up. Last edited by todd3131; 01-21-2016 at 08:38 PM.

01-21-2016, 08:36 PM	#12
30 Tudor and Coupe Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 26	Re: Whitewall question On our Tudor and Coupe with ww's, the right rear discolors faster than the others. That is the tire closest to the tailpipe and I surmise that has something to do with it.

01-22-2016, 10:21 AM	#13
rosenkranswa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Malvern, PA Posts: 361	Re: Whitewall question Thanks for all the input folks. Definitely not the local fauna, and its one of the tires that's normally away from the windows in the garage. I think I'm going to go with the heat flaw in the manufacturing theory. Not a big deal, just annoying. __________________ Wayne @ Barb Malvern '19 T Speedster '26 T Touring '29 A Roadster '30 AA Stakebed '30 A Pickup '30 A Town Sedan '31 A Station Wagon '38 Columbia Girls bike (WWII) '40 Elgin Boys bike (WWII) '42 Super Deluxe Tudor '42 Willys MB Jeep '43 Willys MBT Trailer '43 M3A4 Hand Cart '43 Harley Davidson 42WLA with sidecar

01-22-2016, 10:59 AM	#15
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Whitewall question Even BLACKWALLS sometime have a problem of turning BROWN!!! ST happens! FEW things are PERFECT! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"**

01-22-2016, 08:53 PM	#16
jm29henry Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: michigan Posts: 1,126	Re: Whitewall question I believe that the bleach may cause the browning of your tire according to Brattons they tell,you to you'se simple green to clean your white walls ,I also believe that croker,has the same warning.

01-22-2016, 09:09 PM	#17
Larry Jenkins BANNED Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: East Central Iowa Posts: 1,275	Re: Whitewall question Try this. It worked on my first A, a 31 Deluxe Roadster with Goodyear diamond tread whitewalls. Murphy's Oil Soap. Because it will turn the white really white, I think there might be a bleaching agent in it. Brush some on the tires, full strength. Let sit for about a half hour. Scrub with a steel wool or Scotchbrite pad and some running water. Let dry naturally. They should be the "new" white again. If you do try this, tell the Gang what happened.. Larry __________________ Good enough.. Isn't.

01-23-2016, 12:26 AM	#18
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Whitewall question Have you tried any kind of tire shine on the tires after cleaning. That stopped my Universals from turning brown. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

01-23-2016, 12:36 AM	#19
Dick Carne Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fayetteville, Georgia Posts: 467	Re: Whitewall question I had two sets replaced on my Town Sedan - apparently a manufacturing defect with Firestone (and possibly others) in the production process several years back. This latest set that I switched out seems to be staying white now with little maintenance. I don't believe that it has anything to do with sunlight, exhaust heat, tire cleaners, or the neighbor's dog. I would recommend contacting the folks you bought the tires from and asking them about some sort of swap or adjustment. I dealt with Coker Tire and they seemed cooperative on both occasions. Good luck regardless. Dick

01-23-2016, 01:32 AM	#20
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Whitewall question We had our monthly Model A meeting last night, and the guest speaker was a guy that owns a tire shop. He brought in some 19" radials and some 21" Firestone tires. Both types had very substantial sidewalls and a nice thick tread. He gave a slide show presentation showing how the tires are made. The radials don't come in 21" yet, but for a car that gets driven a fair amount I'd go with the radial tires. For my 28 or 29 I'd be glad to have a set of those Firestone tires.