The Ford Barn

Ol' Ron · 08-09-2022, 09:04 PM

Learned allot here. Now that I have the new wheels I can check stud length and get new ones. I'll post his. However I won't be doing this right now, chassis. however this won't take place rightt now, we're just about ready to take it out for a test ride, to make sure everything is working as plaanned. I just got a seat in it and the steering wheel is in the wrong place. Not bad for a street machine, but needs to be changed. I will have some videos of this, I can have my grand kids post them
Stay tuned.
Gramps

Randy in ca · 08-10-2022, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Just remember one thing, you can NOT run an alloy wheel directly against a thread. (At least not for very long)

Lost me here - can you clarify?

V8COOPMAN · 08-10-2022, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy in ca

Lost me here - can you clarify?

Think about how the special seat works in combination with internal threads to fully support aluminum wheel. Using correct lugs here, there's no way that the threads could rub directly on aluminum wheel holes. Coop

Ol' Ron · 08-10-2022, 08:36 AM

Like they say, Learn sumpin everyday, till they throw dirt on ya.
Gramps

Bored&Stroked · 08-10-2022, 09:26 AM

If the allow wheel was originally designed for a lug-nut with a shoulder/sleeve that went down into to the wheel, then that is what I'd be running.

Pete · 08-10-2022, 12:45 PM

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If the wheel was designed for taper seat nuts that is all that will work right, BUT, many of the earlier wheels were designed for pin drive and required sleeve type nuts.

V8COOPMAN · 08-10-2022, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

If the wheel was designed for taper seat nuts that is all that will work right, BUT, many of the earlier wheels were designed for pin drive and required sleeve type nuts.

Those are the ones that I was really looking for. It was well beyond getting-late, and I was having a hard time finding an appropriate picture....SORRY guys!

BUT....To save the day, here is a picture of the type that Pete is talking about.

Coop

Ol' Ron · 08-10-2022, 05:08 PM

Yes Coop, I've considered this. We;ll see, after we drive it with the original 40 wheels and tires. Too many things to consider right now.

Bored&Stroked · 08-10-2022, 08:56 PM

Also, there are mag wheel nuts that include BOTH a tapered seat (like at 60 degrees) as well as a long shank that goes down into the flange. It is important to have the right ones for the given wheel brand/type.

Pete · 08-10-2022, 09:04 PM

I wonder how many wrecking yard alloy wheels are dye checked before installing on a hot rod?

Ol' Ron · 08-10-2022, 10:45 PM

The yard I use has a wrecking yard for car parts. Once a car/truck reaches a certian age it's scrapped in another yard. The"NEW" yard sells parts to the public. I have access to both, unfortunately, The wheels I wan come from older models and these have been removed and crushed foe aluminum. AND the "NEW" ones are very expensive, I was luckey to find these.
Gramps

V8COOPMAN · 08-11-2022, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

I wonder how many wrecking yard alloy wheels are dye checked before installing on a hot rod?

Fortunately for our collective eyeballs, there ain't many folks using wrecking yard alloy wheels on real hot rods these days.

Coop

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rich b · 08-11-2022, 11:28 AM

Thought only the old Jeeps had 5 on 5-1/2 steel wheels and the modern kind had 5 on 5 alum wheels.

Ol' Ron · 08-11-2022, 12:21 PM

There are several cars that had 5 on 51/2, but I wanted 16X7/8 wheels and these were few and far gone by know. For Pates information, IF 9big IF) this car ever gets on a race track, allot of things will have to change, let me get it running first!!

08-09-2022, 09:04 PM	#21
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: wheel studs Learned allot here. Now that I have the new wheels I can check stud length and get new ones. I'll post his. However I won't be doing this right now, chassis. however this won't take place rightt now, we're just about ready to take it out for a test ride, to make sure everything is working as plaanned. I just got a seat in it and the steering wheel is in the wrong place. Not bad for a street machine, but needs to be changed. I will have some videos of this, I can have my grand kids post them Stay tuned. Gramps

08-10-2022, 08:36 AM	#24
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: wheel studs Like they say, Learn sumpin everyday, till they throw dirt on ya. Gramps

08-10-2022, 09:26 AM	#25
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,067	Re: wheel studs If the allow wheel was originally designed for a lug-nut with a shoulder/sleeve that went down into to the wheel, then that is what I'd be running.

08-10-2022, 12:45 PM	#26
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,409	Re: wheel studs Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If the wheel was designed for taper seat nuts that is all that will work right, BUT, many of the earlier wheels were designed for pin drive and required sleeve type nuts.

08-10-2022, 05:08 PM	#28
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: wheel studs Yes Coop, I've considered this. We;ll see, after we drive it with the original 40 wheels and tires. Too many things to consider right now.

08-10-2022, 08:56 PM	#29
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,067	Re: wheel studs Also, there are mag wheel nuts that include BOTH a tapered seat (like at 60 degrees) as well as a long shank that goes down into the flange. It is important to have the right ones for the given wheel brand/type.

08-10-2022, 09:04 PM	#30
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,409	Re: wheel studs I wonder how many wrecking yard alloy wheels are dye checked before installing on a hot rod?

08-10-2022, 10:45 PM	#31
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: wheel studs The yard I use has a wrecking yard for car parts. Once a car/truck reaches a certian age it's scrapped in another yard. The"NEW" yard sells parts to the public. I have access to both, unfortunately, The wheels I wan come from older models and these have been removed and crushed foe aluminum. AND the "NEW" ones are very expensive, I was luckey to find these. Gramps

08-11-2022, 11:28 AM	#33
rich b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,826	Re: wheel studs Thought only the old Jeeps had 5 on 5-1/2 steel wheels and the modern kind had 5 on 5 alum wheels.

08-11-2022, 12:21 PM	#34
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: wheel studs There are several cars that had 5 on 51/2, but I wanted 16X7/8 wheels and these were few and far gone by know. For Pates information, IF 9big IF) this car ever gets on a race track, allot of things will have to change, let me get it running first!!