trans bell housing w/o i.d. #

[highbeams]

I have a '33 3w no resto orig, but the transmission bell housing has no number, AND the trans tower and box top have been TIG welded onto the box; shift stick is the '39/'40 lazy 'S' type.
(14 3/4" diameter fan.) aluminum heads were removed and replaced with cast iron heads.

(January '33 frame #)




number 'tag' on heads=driver side12-19-45 886050B; passenger side 5-23-47 886049B. Thanks for your thoughts on this, if any.

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replaced-in-the-dark-ages:

worn rubber (rectangle)brake pedal pad;

mini-cracked rubber(oval) clutch pedal pad.

So the car has seen significant use.
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[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by highbeams

I have a '33 3w no resto orig, but the transmission bell housing has no number, AND the trans tower and box top have been TIG welded onto the box; shift stick is the '39/'40 lazy 'S' type.
(14 3/4" diameter fan.) aluminum heads were removed and replaced with cast iron heads.

(January '33 frame #)




number 'tag' on heads=driver side12-19-45 886050B; passenger side 5-23-47 886049B. Thanks for your thoughts on this, if any.

*****

replaced-in-the-dark-ages:

worn rubber (rectangle)brake pedal pad;

mini-cracked rubber(oval) clutch pedal pad.

So the car has seen significant use.
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Sooo.....Just what are you trying to say here? Or, what is your question? DD

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[highbeams]

Thank you, DD -

Is the no-number on the trans bell housing odd? Certainly not typical, correct? After all it is the engine i.d. number, correct? I thought it was mandatory@FoMoCo.

How would one identify this trans bell housing; to wit, what is it, who made it. (there is the oiler 'opening' atop to oil the throwout bearing.

The other blab is to give info about the car, if that would help in any way.

The tig weld re the tower and trans top. Why would that be done! How does one i.d. what type of this transmission is. Everything else on the car is typical Ford, not messed with.

* there is an unprofessional hydraulic brake system- I see the master cylinder, w/a scrambled ball of line under the dash. (I'll delete this post soon.)



Sincerely thanking you for your reply, DD.

Pat Malone

[texas webb]

Can you send a picture to Van Pelts? he can help.

[DavidG]

Service part transmission cases weren't numbered (except for a cast-in part number at the back), so that could explain that, but why anyone would weld the shift lever housing to the case is beyond comprehension.

[tomcarman]

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My avatar '32 has a '33 engine in it and I know the transmission is not '32. I don't know if there is a number on the bell housing but I can take a look. It might be a few days but I will report back.
Tom

[cas3]

If its a 78 case, the later ones in open drive pickups 49& up have no number on the pad

[highbeams]

Thank you.

[highbeams]

Okay, thanks.

[highbeams]

Thank you all.

(I once read that the V8 transmissions were used for four-cylinders as well.)

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by highbeams

Thank you all.

(I once read that the V8 transmissions were used for four-cylinders as well.)

The transmission on RIGHT is a 4-cylinder trans, as compared to the normal "78-" case on left. DD

[tubman]

I once had a '36 with a '34 engine that had iron heads dated similarly to yours (in the '40's). I was told by the previous owner they were factory replacements cast on those dates.

[rotorwrench]

The original transmission would have had the shift tower that angles back to the rear to a certain degree. After late 1935, the shift towers were straight up. Replacement cases may not have been marked with the serial number "VIN". Who ever decided to weld the shift tower on didn't do anyone any favors. The transmission can not be disassembled if the top can't be removed. Pickup transmission cases were open drive after 1941 but no number could be post war and the rear bearing retainer and main shaft can be replaced to work as closed drive type set up with a torque tube.

Any photo of the set up would go a long way towards ID. We're in the dark without any visuals. The "bell housing" discription doesn't really fit an early Ford. The rear of the engine block forms part of the clutch & flywheel compartment and the transmission only has a bit of a bell on the front of it. An 8BA engine has either a half bell or a full bell housing depending on application but earlier engines don't. Also, post war engines may have the number "59" on top of the clutch & flywheel area. Also to add, it's my understanding that cylinder heads weren't marked until later when the 1933 cast iron heads were introduced. The 886049/50 indicate cylinder heads but the other numbers may be date codes but I don't know for sure. They would be replacement heads if they are that late. Ford's replacement for the old style pump in head engines was the 59A engine set up after the war.

[highbeams]

I see that it is a straight-up tower w/the '39'40 floor shift.

I will have to pull the plywood floor boards and the metal floor pan. Will post pic(s) later.

If you recall, I had a heck of a time posting pics on this site. An email address would be much more favourable!

Pat Malone

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San Luis Obispo, CA 93401