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lonewolf · 07-23-2015, 01:25 PM

https://instagram.com/p/5XiR2NjH4-/

He said it makes 440hp. And that there is room to bore it to 4" on a 59ab block?

Admiral · 07-23-2015, 01:45 PM

You'll hit water LOOOOOONG before you ever get a flathead V8's bore to four inches.

51 MERC-CT · 07-23-2015, 02:13 PM

It's an obvious miss-print. If it were 3 7/8 bore the outer two cylinders would be just about touching each other.
Believe the 4'' reference was the stroke.

lonewolf · 07-23-2015, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

It's an obvious miss-print. If it were 3 7/8 bore the outer two cylinders would be just about touching each other.
Believe the 4'' reference was the stroke.

Thats what i thought but this is another post he put up
https://instagram.com/p/5a6oGzpVqH/

Im only asking because i have a friend that is looking to buy a done motor. He seen this and got all excited and asked me what i thought. I thought the seller was wrong but im no expert. Thanks for the info i will show my friend this post

Mike B · 07-23-2015, 03:15 PM

How does he figure 440 hp?

I assume he messaged it to your friend, because I no mention in his posting.

lonewolf · 07-23-2015, 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike B

How does he figure 440 hp?

I assume he messaged it to your friend, because I no mention in his posting.

He has it posted on another pic on instagram. How it makes 440hp naturally aspirated...nitro?

Fibber Mcgee · 07-23-2015, 03:29 PM

Maybe he will trade for my 6000 cc 1900 hp VW bug engine.

51 MERC-CT · 07-23-2015, 03:30 PM

Considering how far apart the two outer cylinders are located, if the engine pictured is bored to 3 7/8" then the wall thickness between them should be less than 1/4".
If it was bored to 4" then the wall thickness would be less than 1/8"
Tell your friend to run as fast as he can away from that guy.

Mike B · 07-23-2015, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonewolf

He has it posted on another pic on instagram. How it makes 440hp naturally aspirated...nitro?

Guess he forgot the blower for the pic

Kahuna · 07-23-2015, 04:20 PM

Man, I need one of those. Mine only makes 400hp. Wow

WestCoast · 07-23-2015, 04:40 PM

I have had several flatheads bored to .187 over, (3/16) about a quarter of them went into the water jackets, and the bore was only 3 3/8 then, and I doubt if the webbing for the main bearings would stand that much h/p, there is only three of them, a weakness of the flathead, a 4" stroke is nothing, that's a stock merc crank stroke, some thing is very wrong with that add

VeryTangled · 07-23-2015, 04:44 PM

"murdermotorsports Death Metal Fabrications"

"We are MURDER MOTORSPORTS * Shady Products for Shady People • Patented Flathead V8 components• Located in Denton county. Est. 2001 Zack 940-765-3266"

'Nuff said.

Fe26 · 07-23-2015, 05:54 PM

Ask him to take a pic showing a vernier gauge reading of the bore.

petes 50 merc · 07-23-2015, 06:17 PM

he changed the ad to 3 9/16 that sounds better

uncle max · 07-23-2015, 06:34 PM

If it's on the internet, it must be true.

lonewolf · 07-23-2015, 06:41 PM

He just said he was mistaken. On the bore and hp#`s. I guess everyone makes mistakes he was man enuff to admit he was wrong

mike in tucson · 07-23-2015, 06:55 PM

For a "refreshed" motor, you would expect less carbon on the valves and pistons in the picture. Also, the water pumps might need some alignment. A bore of 3 9/16 seems to be still a tad large since 3 3/8" is usually considered risky. Maybe the motor has see thru cylinder walls?

Ol' Ron · 07-23-2015, 07:23 PM

I have a friend that runs a dragster with a 3 1/2 " bore and a 4 1/2 inch stroke 345ci
I've seen the insude of the engine, yes it has sleeves. Runs gas in the 10's

WestCoast · 07-23-2015, 07:45 PM

rons right, if its 3 9/16 it has to have sleeves I didn't see any in the posted pic

Pete · 07-23-2015, 08:51 PM

The guy is probably measuring with a fisherman's rule.

07-23-2015, 01:25 PM	#1
lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 464	is this possible? https://instagram.com/p/5XiR2NjH4-/ He said it makes 440hp. And that there is room to bore it to 4" on a 59ab block?

07-23-2015, 01:45 PM	#2
Admiral Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oakland County, Michigan Posts: 562	Re: is this possible? You'll hit water LOOOOOONG before you ever get a flathead V8's bore to four inches.

07-23-2015, 02:13 PM	#3
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: is this possible? It's an obvious miss-print. If it were 3 7/8 bore the outer two cylinders would be just about touching each other. Believe the 4'' reference was the stroke. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

07-23-2015, 03:15 PM	#5
Mike B Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oakdale,Ca Posts: 1,323	Re: is this possible? How does he figure 440 hp? I assume he messaged it to your friend, because I no mention in his posting.

07-23-2015, 03:29 PM	#7
Fibber Mcgee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Callahan Fla Posts: 1,149	Re: is this possible? Maybe he will trade for my 6000 cc 1900 hp VW bug engine. __________________ Wanted, a car with a " Dynaflex Superflowing Unijet Turbovasculator which is Syncromeshed to the Multicoil Hydrotensioned Dual vacuum Dynomometer. "

07-23-2015, 03:30 PM	#8
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: is this possible? Considering how far apart the two outer cylinders are located, if the engine pictured is bored to 3 7/8" then the wall thickness between them should be less than 1/4". If it was bored to 4" then the wall thickness would be less than 1/8" Tell your friend to run as fast as he can away from that guy. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

07-23-2015, 04:20 PM	#10
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: is this possible? Man, I need one of those. Mine only makes 400hp. Wow

07-23-2015, 04:40 PM	#11
WestCoast Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: oroville calif Posts: 893	Re: is this possible? I have had several flatheads bored to .187 over, (3/16) about a quarter of them went into the water jackets, and the bore was only 3 3/8 then, and I doubt if the webbing for the main bearings would stand that much h/p, there is only three of them, a weakness of the flathead, a 4" stroke is nothing, that's a stock merc crank stroke, some thing is very wrong with that add

07-23-2015, 04:44 PM	#12
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: is this possible? "murdermotorsports Death Metal Fabrications" "We are MURDER MOTORSPORTS * Shady Products for Shady People • Patented Flathead V8 components• Located in Denton county. Est. 2001 Zack 940-765-3266" 'Nuff said. __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

07-23-2015, 05:54 PM	#13
Fe26 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 949	Re: is this possible? Ask him to take a pic showing a vernier gauge reading of the bore.

07-23-2015, 06:17 PM	#14
petes 50 merc Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern California Posts: 44	Re: is this possible? he changed the ad to 3 9/16 that sounds better

07-23-2015, 06:34 PM	#15
uncle max Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 798	Re: is this possible? If it's on the internet, it must be true. __________________ RIP Tyler... My Son, Helper & Best Friend. Feb '78 to Father's Day '10. www.97-express.com ~ [email protected]

07-23-2015, 06:41 PM	#16
lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 464	Re: is this possible? He just said he was mistaken. On the bore and hp#`s. I guess everyone makes mistakes he was man enuff to admit he was wrong

07-23-2015, 06:55 PM	#17
mike in tucson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 177	Re: is this possible? For a "refreshed" motor, you would expect less carbon on the valves and pistons in the picture. Also, the water pumps might need some alignment. A bore of 3 9/16 seems to be still a tad large since 3 3/8" is usually considered risky. Maybe the motor has see thru cylinder walls?

07-23-2015, 07:23 PM	#18
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: is this possible? I have a friend that runs a dragster with a 3 1/2 " bore and a 4 1/2 inch stroke 345ci I've seen the insude of the engine, yes it has sleeves. Runs gas in the 10's

07-23-2015, 07:45 PM	#19
WestCoast Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: oroville calif Posts: 893	Re: is this possible? rons right, if its 3 9/16 it has to have sleeves I didn't see any in the posted pic

07-23-2015, 08:51 PM	#20
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,409	Re: is this possible? The guy is probably measuring with a fisherman's rule.