Help Identify Clutch Pedal

[Mr. Will]

I am looking for a clutch Pedal like in the picture below. I Have not been able to identify what it was used on. It does not appear to be 32-48 passenger car but thought it possibly could be pickup. I would appreciate any help. Also would be interested if anyone has a pedal assembly with this clutch pedal they would part with.



Thanks Dan

[Charlie Stephens]

Any chance there is a part number cast into it? My guess is that there is an extra bend that didn't come from the factory.

Charlie Stephens

[Mr. Will]

Charlie,
All I have is that picture. Yes it has been bent to fit that application. I have 33, 34, 35, 36, 38 & 39 pedal assemblies and none have that dog on the bottom of the clutch pedal but, after looking online at 1940 pedal assemblies I'm starting to think that may be a 40 brake pedal that has been used for the clutch pedal.

[Tinker]

Looks like a 39 pedal setup that someone bent. Custom work, frame even has a nice little pocket. or not. Guess you could put and pedal on it.

[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Looks like a 39 pedal setup that someone bent. Custom work, frame even has a nice little pocket.

No its not 39. 39 has the clutch dog on the far right end of the shaft.

[Tinker]

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Kind of looks like maybe they used two brake pedals. A brake pedal as a "clutch" pedal.

[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Kind of looks like maybe they used two brake pedals. A brake pedal as a "clutch" pedal.

That is what I am thinking too.

[Tinker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Will

That is what I am thinking too.

If you are doing a clean build, no matter the pedals you would want to put new bushings in it. Would then allow you to rebuild it with whatever pedals with some machining or none as the pedals should have the same shaft width.

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[34fivewindow]

they look like modified 40 pedals, in a 33-34 frame.

[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by 34fivewindow

they look like modified 40 pedals, in a 33-34 frame.

You are correct, that is exactly what they are and I am thinking the clutch pedal is a brake pedal.

[JM 35 Sedan]

If I can get out to the garage today, I'll take a look at some '40 and later pedal assemblies and some other loose pedals that have been removed from their mounting brackets. I know I have some pedals that look very similar to the one in your picture.

[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

If I can get out to the garage today, I'll take a look at some '40 and later pedal assemblies and some other loose pedals that have been removed from their mounting brackets. I know I have some pedals that look very similar to the one in your picture.

That would be great. Let me know what you come up with.


Thanks Dan

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Will

That would be great. Let me know what you come up with.
Thanks Dan

Hopefully some pictures I've taken will post here, and will be helpful in identifying the pedal in question.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Hopefully some pictures I've taken will post here and will be helpful identify the pedal in question.

Good mornin', John! You've posted some interesting pictures there for anyone trying to learn the differences in these old Ford pedals. For some reason, pedals have always caught my attention when I see them, and it's clear that SOME folks don't have a clue when they go to describe (for instance) pedals FOR SALE, or when just asking about some pedals they are contemplating using for a project.


MOST old Ford pedals and brackets have a number forged into them which is a definitive factor when ID-ing these parts. The PREFIXes (91A-, 99A-, 01A-, 09A-, and others) contain the greatest amount of heritage information. For instance, "91A-": The "9" denotes YEAR 1939. The "1" denotes Ford (rather than Mercury). The "A" denotes PASSENGER CAR or LIGHT truck application. "01A-" would equate to 1940 FORD passenger car/light truck. "09A-" (the "9" appearing as the SECOND digit indicates MERCURY) would have translated as 1940 MERCURY passenger car.


The SUFFIXes found AFTER the dash (-) indicates the group number that Ford uses to ID APPLICATION, or type of part. For instance, a "7520" (or 7519) indicates a CLUTCH pedal. A "2455" (or 2453) is Ford-speak for a BRAKE pedal. And Ford uses "2467" to indicate a pedal BRACKET.


Below is a picture of a complete 1939 FORD pedal set. 1939 pedals were a unique, one-year-only set of pedals that have larger pivots where the pedal mounts to the bracket, not to mention the clutch pedal's action being transmitted THROUGH the brake pedal pivot to the clutch release lever on the RIGHT side of the brake pedal....different for sure! This brings us to the point of my post, John. The pedals you have pictured with question marks MUST be '39 BRAKE pedals....notice the HUGE round pivot hole which is a '39-ONLY feature. I happen to have four different 1939 Ford pedal assemblies in my stash. Even though they all have the identical, basic numbers on the individual pieces, I've noted several minor differences between the four sets. I attribute these differences to possible updates for whatever reason, or possibly even the manufacture for Ford by different suppliers. So John, some good visual info from your pics.


A couple more little tidbits of info that MAY be found on pedals (as well as OTHER Ford parts)….if there is a "C" included in the numbers, it came on a CANADIAN-manufactured vehicle. If there happens to be an "F" in the number, the parts originated on a Right-hand drive (RHD) vehicle. DD


John's (JM35) Mystery Pedal below.... (It's a '39 Brake Pedal)





1939 PEDAL SET







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[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

John's (JM35) Mystery Pedal below.... (It's a '39 Brake Pedal)





1939 PEDAL SET







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V8COOPMAN,
You are correct Johns mystery pedal is 39 brake 91A2455. I have a set as well.

[Mart]

I was thinking a 40 brake pedal too. The dog leg of the lower lever is the giveaway. It might be a mercury part. It's been bent so who can tell. It will have a part number on it so that would tell you. You won't get anther one as that is a custom application.

Mart.

[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by Mart

I was thinking a 40 brake pedal too. The dog leg of the lower lever is the giveaway. It might be a mercury part. It's been bent so who can tell. It will have a part number on it so that would tell you. You won't get anther one as that is a custom application.

Mart.

Yep, the dog leg is the giveaway.
I'm looking for a set of 40 pedals and then another 40 brake pedal so I can modify for the same application as shown in the picture.
It wasn't until after I started this thread that I figured out that clutch pedal in the picture was really a brake pedal used in place of the clutch pedal.

[deuce_roadster]

Not real impressed with cutting down almost through a structural member, the pedal is in the "up" position. Why would you want to recreate it? Or are you just curious?
P.S. You should have pictures of the nuke plant cooling towers displayed!

[Mr. Will]

Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

Not real impressed with cutting down almost through a structural member, the pedal is in the "up" position. Why would you want to recreate it? Or are you just curious?
P.S. You should have pictures of the nuke plant cooling towers displayed!

The X member gets boxed. I want to use a hydraulic clutch for my application.

Cooling towers are in the background can't you see them...LOL

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

Not real impressed with cutting down almost through a structural member, the pedal is in the "up" position. Why would you want to recreate it? Or are you just curious?

This is a fairly common approach to installing hydraulic brakes in the early frames (33/34).