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Old 02-23-2019, 02:04 PM   #1
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I got a set of 15" 65 Ford F100 wheels for my 40 station wagon. They are powder coated and ready to run. I am looking for a set of 15" radial tires at Discount and other outlets that will not look out of place on an otherwise stock 40 Ford wagon. What 15" are you running on your stock car? I want to avoid Diamondback and Coker and get modern black walls.
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Old 02-23-2019, 02:17 PM   #2
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I've run 205 75r15 which is close to 600 x 16s
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The 6.00x16 tire is generally considered to be 28" tall. You can use the following chart to get the size you want that is close to the 28" diameter.
https://tiresize.com/height-chart/
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Old 02-23-2019, 02:35 PM   #4
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I've run 205 75r15 which is close to 600 x 16s
I have the sizes, I am looking for the brand and source. Sorry I didn't make that clear in the original post. Specifically what brand and series tire (not size) are you running?
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Philip, I know you said you don't want the size, but I will offer this.

The thing about the original tires is the aspect ratio. The aspect ratio for a bias ply is (I believe) 100%. I'm talking about the height of the sidewall.

a 195/70 R 15 has an aspect ratio of 70%.
a 195/60 R 15 has a 60% aspect ratio.

There are some radial tires available that do not quote an aspect ratio. These have an 82% aspect ratio. This is the tallest you can get in a radial (except for some off road 16 inchers that can be 85%)

I'd be looking for one of these where the aspect ratio is not quoted.

Try an online search for a tire supplier that can supply a 195 R15. or a 185 R15. If you can see any available, then look to see if there is one that looks ok.

My opinion is that some modern tires have awfully cluttered designs on the sidewall. You want to pick one with the least cluttered sidewall design that has a decent looking tread pattern.

Now, these tyres in the 195 and 185 sizes are all van tyres. no passenger car has them as standard, but your 40 being a wagon would probably be quite suited.

Disclaimer. I found these sizes available here in the UK from a Germany based company. They might not be available in the USA.

Here is what would be available to me here in the UK

185 R15:
https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rs...&homologation=

195 R 15:
https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rs...arch+for+tyres

The links might not work as they may be location dependent.

Bottom line: Pick the size you want (tallest sidewall being most important in my opinion) then look to see what you can get.

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Really confused now! Every website I have looked at has an aspect ratio. What ratio do we want? Using the chart, it looks like the 205/75/15 is closest to the old 600/16. Is that right? Also you are right, I want the black wall outside to be fairly smooth without a bunch of gobbledy gook.
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Tire Rack is a good resource for tire information,picture of tires,etc.

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Coker 6.00-16 tire is shown to have a 28.56" diameter. The 205/75R15 shows to be 27.1". The 215/75R15 is listed as 28.3", which is close, but the section width will be wider than a bias ply tire.

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Coker...16,106456.html

I just bought some small, narrow 15" tires for the front of my car. I found only the smaller tires such as 155-15 and 175-15, are not listed with aspect ratios.
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75 is likely pretty close to the old 16 for diameter & circumpherence. The 75s were mostly on pickups back in the day but there were some cars that had them after the G78 era. The 15-inchers are getting harder to find for cars these days. There are a lot for pickups & SUVs but they are patterned for more off road use than a car tire. My old family type cars that still have 15s are getting harder to source a decent tire for. A lot of the brand names suggest Asian origins with very few from old brand names. It won't be long before some of the "antique" tire suppliers will be the only place to find them too. My folks went from the "Non-Skid" era to the metric era so I guess I shouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens in my life time.
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After looking at the Discount Tire site, I notice that any radial larger then the 205/75/15 size needs a rim at least 5.5 inches. My pickup rims are 5.0 wide which is ok for the 205s but not the 215s or 225s. They both require 5.5 rim width. Do you think the 1/2" narrower wheel would matter that much?
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The taller the aspect ratio, the less critical the rim width. So a 1/2" shortfall is not a biggie.

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I found a pretty good candidate:

https://www.discounttire.com/fitment...ice-asc&page=2

It's a Goodyear Wrangler HT LT215/75/R15.

What do you think? Not allot of crapola on the sidewalls either. Not cheap though.
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Have you called the folks at Diamondback for a comparison?
Lots of folks like their tires.
https://dbtires.com/
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I don't know how close to original mine look but I like the P235-70R15 Cooper Discoverers I have on my 52 Merc on stock wheels. I know they are fatter than original but its the look I want for the car. From the side I don't think it is much different from the 7.10x15s bias plies my dad used to run on it in the 1960s.
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:42 PM   #15
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Have you called the folks at Diamondback for a comparison?
Lots of folks like their tires.
https://dbtires.com/
No I want to avoid Diamondback and Coker for the high prices and unknown manufactures of their tires. That was the whole reason for getting 15" rims. I like Discount Tires best.
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It's a Goodyear Wrangler HT LT215/75/R15.

What do you think? .
The LT designation is for "light truck". Maybe just fine for your wagon, but is probably a little stiffer than a passenger tire.

I wouldn't hesitate to run a 215 tire on a 5" rim.
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Thanks everybody for allot of great information. Also the HAMB has a thread on grinding off lettering, etc. to make any tire smooth on the sidewalls.
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try american classic from coker.
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The guy keeps saying no Coker or Diamond Back a number of times. Doesn't it sink in???
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The LT designation is for "light truck". Maybe just fine for your wagon, but is probably a little stiffer than a passenger tire.

I wouldn't hesitate to run a 215 tire on a 5" rim.
You can control stiffness with inflation pressures to a degree.
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Coker and Diamondback are WAY overpriced IMHO. And who knows who made them. Probably Chinese. That's why I went to 15" wheels so I could avoid them.
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Coker has their own manufacturing plant in Chattanooga Tn. I took a tour there and saw it, they aren't Chinese. But...that doesn't mean they aren't expensive.
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Most of the Coker radials have white walls. I don't know about Diamondback. A light truck tire should be fine for an older car. Just use an appropriate tire pressure. The odd sizes for better mileage are more expensive than common sizes. I've found that Discount tire usually has to order them for you since they don't sell a lot of them.

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[QUOTE=rotorwrench; I've found that Discount tire usually has to order them for you since they don't sell a lot of them.[/QUOTE]

True but Discount can usually get them within days.
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I use Cooper 235X75 tires on the rear. The same height as the stock 600X16. Take a look at the Cooper Trendsetters. In the past I mounted the 235s on 5" wide wheels.
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I use Cooper 235X75 tires on the rear. The same height as the stock 600X16. Take a look at the Cooper Trendsetters. In the past I mounted the 235s on 5" wide wheels.
I also plan to go with the Cooper Trendsetter SE but in the 225/75r/15 size. What I like is the nice clean sidewalls without allot of trash on them. The 225 size is even closer to the 600/16 tire than the 235. It's only 1/4" difference in height from the 600/16 tire. The 600/16 tire is 28.56" in diameter. The P225/75R/15 tire is 28.30" in diameter. I am planning to use these on all 4 wheels on my 40 wagon. And they are only $65 a piece instead of spending over $200 each at Diamondback or Coker and no doubt a better tire. Thanks!

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I also plan to go with the Cooper Trendsetter SE but in the 225/75r/15 size. What I like is the nice clean sidewalls without allot of trash on them. The 225 size is even closer to the 600/16 tire than the 235. It's only 1/4" difference in height from the 600/16 tire. The 600/16 tire is 28.56" in diameter. The P225/75R/15 tire is 28.30" in diameter. I am planning to use these on all 4 wheels on my 40 wagon. And they are only $65 a piece instead of spending over $200 each at Diamondback or Coker and no doubt a better tire. Thanks!
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I put Cooper Trendsetters on my '41 (205/75/15 and 235/75/15). Terrible. the 235's treads were wavy but they replaced them. the 205'5 in front would never balance correctly.
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with 65 wheels/rims you can run most anything. Really.


Tires can be important to the look or idea you are presenting.



I'd ask, what do you want to see or project??


Lots of options.






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RalphG, that black and white pic took me back for a moment. I thought it was a pic of Cody Wyoming, a few years ago.
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I am running cooper tires on 15" vintique wheels on my 53 f-100, black walls 215R -75 front and 235R-75 rear they look great $80.00 per tire.
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I put Cooper Trendsetters on my '41 (205/75/15 and 235/75/15). Terrible. the 235's treads were wavy but they replaced them. the 205'5 in front would never balance correctly.
Can't be any worse than those Corkers.
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Tire Rack is a good resource for tire information,picture of tires,etc.

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But not a good source to buy tires from. They are often over a year old by the time you get them. By the time you pay for mounting, shipping etc. you are way over what it would cost at Discount Tire.
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I have always found it best to deal with a local tire store. If you have a problem they will take care of it.
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with 65 wheels/rims you can run most anything. Really.

Tires can be important to the look or idea you are presenting.

I'd ask, what do you want to see or project??

Lots of options.

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Not presenting anything. A mostly all original car with some mods to improve drivability.
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TJ has a good suggestion then.
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I've had excellent service and prices from "TireRack.com". On the off chance that there is a problem, getting it corrected is a little more complicated, but I've never beed disappointed.
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I've had excellent service and prices from "TireRack.com". On the off chance that there is a problem, getting it corrected is a little more complicated, but I've never beed disappointed.
Not only is it more complicated it is also more expensive. Paying a local shop to mount and balance the tire, you will pay to dismount it if there is a problem and possibly pay shipping back to Tire Rack. You will also pay to mount and balance the new tire if it is replaced. Why not give your local shop the business and they will stand behind the tire if there is a problem.
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Not only is it more complicated it is also more expensive. Paying a local shop to mount and balance the tire, you will pay to dismount it if there is a problem and possibly pay shipping back to Tire Rack. You will also pay to mount and balance the new tire if it is replaced. Why not give your local shop the business and they will stand behind the tire if there is a problem.
I have my own tire machine, which helps a lot. This day and age, if you do any amount of tire work at all, using the local tire shop (whose main job is selling tires, not mounting them for walk-ins), can be quite expensive and very time consuming. Trust me, unless you have some special relationship, your job is going to be last in line and you will be charged for everything they can think of; shop supplies, disposal charges, overpriced valve stems, etc.

On my daily drivers, I figure I save several hundred dollars per set doing my own work. In addition, I know the job is done right, especially where any special wheels and/or tires are involved.

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^^Same here, (to some extent). I don't have much Harbor freight stuff, but do have one of their tire mounting rigs. Can be a real workout, but I treasure the ability to do that kind of thing myself. These days, the wife's car goes to the tire store and not much else.
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I don't know how close to original mine look but I like the P235-70R15 Cooper Discoverers I have on my 52 Merc on stock wheels. I know they are fatter than original but its the look I want for the car. From the side I don't think it is much different from the 7.10x15s bias plies my dad used to run on it in the 1960s.

No rubbing issues, Ralph?
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No rubbing issues, Ralph?
I've noticed if I crank the steering wheel to the limit there will be bit of tire rub on the frame but not enough to worry me.
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I've used 215 on 5" wide wheels without crowning, but I would say no wider. I would look for some type of commercial tire as regular 75 series car tires look too balloony to me, the sidewall bulges too much.


I prefer the square look of bias or as close as you can come with radials.

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During the 1980s at a swap meet there was a guy that demolished gas stations that had a trailer with 10 air operated tire machines. I bought a pretty new one for $80 still works today as good as it did back then. Probably the best $80 I ever spent at a swap meet, for a Coats 10-10 machine with air inflate ring. Plus I get to see all my friends at the beginning of winter when they want to mount their snow tires and then spring when it is time to take them off! I gave away my manual tire equipment. In all these years the only thing I have purchased for this are plastic items for working on aluminum wheels. Have since picked up an older Weaver spin balancer so I only use the local tire stores for my 2015 F150. I usually try to keep as much of my $ in the local area.
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