German Bodied 35 Ford in France

[deuce lover]

Thought I would share what I came across today in the south of France.It is a 1935 Ford German coachwork by Glassner(might have spelled it wrong)It is what it is and lots of things incorrect or not redone correctly .Sold new in Germany and after the war exported to Senegal in Africa.Was discovered there a few yrs ago and brought to France.I was asked for help in getting parts to get it to run.The engine is a 24 stud not raised deck possibly 1938-39? Chassis is pretty much like the USA models and with mech brakes.Front fenders like a US '35.Hood and hood sides + grille like a US '37.Interesting that the doors are suicide and how the windows roll up and down with the folding frames made from brass.The tail light stands are US ones bought by the owner as none were there.Bumpers are smooth ,have no groove in the middle.They added the spare mount made up of a brake drum since that was gone.It needs a lot of work to get it right.Entire subfloor is wood.Hubcaps are 1 piece.Head lights are recent replacements.

Enjoy and Happy Holidays !!!!!

[FlatheadTed]

Very cool ,Thanks for posting

[50flathead]

Indeed very cool. It's great to see these cars well kept. Good job!

[rockfla]

Actually, this body style is quite common IF you can use such a word for "most" German pre war Fords. Here are just a few of ones that I have pictures of...good to see another one out there!!!!! Actually this body style most likely ran form 1937 to possibly early 1939. If you notice one of the differentiating features from 37 to 38 is the heavy chrome cross bars like the one pictured below (picture 1). I have pictures of at least 3 or 4 more like these. Thanks for sharing.

[rockfla]

They were also quite plentiful back in the day as well. Seemed to be quite popular once confiscated for the use by the German Army.

[jimvette59]

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Originally Posted by FlatheadTed

Very cool ,Thanks for posting

And a left hand steering to boot. Love it.

[rockfla]

@ Deuce Lover
The brass window guides are common on the German Cabriolets. Our 32 & 35 are both equipped with them...they serve three purposes 1) Support the top/top frame across such a wide opening and 2) To support the glass at "higher speeds" from flexing in and out. 3) They help "seal" the opening from the outside elements. There are 'many" pieces that make these cars interesting and if they are missing it can be VERY expensive, damn near impossible to make it right....case in point....the picture below is of ones for our 35 that were unfortunately missing......many hours of time spent getting the curvature right then machining and re machining.......PLUS what you don't see is an intricate base unit (inside the door) that supports them. What you see below represents several thousand US dollars worth of work.

[deuce lover]

Originally Posted by rockfla

@ Deuce Lover
The brass window guides are common on the German Cabriolets. Our 32 & 35 are both equipped with them...they serve three purposes 1) Support the top/top frame across such a wide opening and 2) To support the glass at "higher speeds" from flexing in and out. 3) They help "seal" the opening from the outside elements. There are 'many" pieces that make these cars interesting and if they are missing it can be VERY expensive, damn near impossible to make it right....case in point....the picture below is of ones for our 35 that were unfortunately missing......many hours of time spent getting the curvature right then machining and re machining.......PLUS what you don't see is an intricate base unit (inside the door) that supports them. What you see below represents several thousand US dollars worth of work.

Thanks for your input !

[deuce lover]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Actually, this body style is quite common IF you can use such a word for "most" German pre war Fords. Here are just a few of ones that I have pictures of...good to see another one out there!!!!! Actually this body style most likely ran form 1937 to possibly early 1939. If you notice one of the differentiating features from 37 to 38 is the heavy chrome cross bars like the one pictured below (picture 1). I have pictures of at least 3 or 4 more like these. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for those pics.The car I saw today has 3 hinges per door .Your pics only show 2 for each door.

[rockfla]

@Deuce Lover
Here is an "original" sales brochure for one....as for the two/three door hinges....by this time, in Germany......most likely two firms were producing these bodies for Ford of Germany......Deutsch & Drauz, the latter most likely producing more.....it is possible that the three hinge version is Deutsch and the two hinge version is Drauz.....when you compare the coach work of the two, Deutsch was a cut above as far as the appointments and heft of all of their hardware they used even though the styling between the two is very similar. An interesting point for me to go back and look at for sure.....one can look at these cars and look at them and each time you find something new and intriguing or some nuance that you didn't notice before.

[27TV8]

We were in Denmark last month and I took some photos of Fords Danish and German.
I used to be able to include photos but your format has changed so to see them you have to look at my blog .www.1948fordpickup.blogspot.ca.
It used to be easy to post photos now it has changed.

[rockfla]

@27TV8
Interesting pictures, I already have pictures of the green car in your blog but not the white 37. Looking at your photos reminded me that the red car that started this post has the "wrong" hood, it should be scalloped along the edges and curve around up front around the hood ornament. The smooth bumpers are correct for German Fords (NO LINES). The grease fitting on the hinge of the green car you took a picture of is not correct, it should be a "straight" grease fitting!!!!

[jimTN]

And I always thought that rocket hood ornament was and accessory! Had one of those back in the 80s on my 37, shut the hood hard during a Chicago winder and it broke. I believe the engine in the first pics is a 40, at least appears to have 40 heads.

[rockfla]

@deucelover
Also missing from the 37 you posted pictures of is the correct Ford oval in the grill....Picture below.....If it helps I have seen one or two pop up forsale in the past but still will be a tough find all in all to make the car correct. If you care to share with the owner and his desire to restore the car as correctly as he can.

[deuce lover]

Those are tough to find.Been looking at every swap meet for the last yr here.They just put a repro '32 in it as it fits perfectly.

[rockfla]

@Deucelover
I do not have 100% PROOF but at some point Ford of Germany used red as evidence of the emblem on our 35 Drauz and we have never seen another one like it, we have seen one in red BUT NOT with the Koln in the bottom!!! Its quite possible that 32's used RED but we have NO photographic or print evidence of it yet!!!!! The emblem above with the "Deutsches Erzeugnis" started with the model that started this post, I believe we have one of these that someone gave us but its not in very good nick.

[deuce lover]

I have seen and had the red ones(with only the Ford script) but they were on the Model Y's from the UK

[Graeme / New Zealand]

cool old photos with the "square heads".

GB

[rotorwrench]

The engine has 9T on the heads (US 99T?). The 24 studs & no water pumps in the heads is a later design. Maybe one of the later Ford of France (Matford or SAF). It is not a Cologne G29T for sure. The numbers on the back or other casting marks may tell.

[VeryTangled]

Good thread going here guys. Thanks for getting it going deuce lover.

It looks like something is going on with the glove box door in the original post? Anyone got further info?