Oil pan tool Q......

[hardtimes]

I have a very messed up '32 oil pan, i.e.- stud holes do not align from pan damage.
I'm wondering , did Ford and/or KRW make a tool to straighten oil pan. Sure hate to trash a beat up pan !

[1931 flamingo]

I doubt it when you could just buy a new pan for a few dollars. JMO
Paul in CT

[Walt Dupont--Me.]

If It's an aluminum oil pan it's worth gold. Walt

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me.

If It's an aluminum oil pan it's worth gold. Walt

Hey Walt,
No such luck ! It's that darn Ford tuff iron/tin whatever it is. Better come ready to do battle when attacking one of these. Geeze, aluminum would have been like something from heaven, comparatively !
Ok, maybe a new pan back then was 'cheap'. But, when you do not have a good one, cheap is relative !
I'd bet a dollar to a donut that KRW or Ford made a tool for straightening such equipment. Heck, tools were made for saving most everything else.

[JM 35 Sedan]

I'm thinking the only tooling that existed for these oil pans was the original tooling made for manufacturing them.

[A bones]

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I would find an old body man. The older the better, they just loved beating on thick metal. I've seen grampuses do miracles with destroyed stuff and make it look like they were arranging flowers or such. All while having a good time.

[JRHASZARD]

Hello Walt
Hello JM

Get ready for the COLD !

[BILL WZOREK]

JRHASZARD:

Long time on hear. Welcome back.
Hope all is well.
Happy new year......

[jimTN]

What is the difference between a 32-4 steel pan? If there is no difference, then those are available used.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by A bones

I would find an old body man. The older the better, they just loved beating on thick metal. I've seen grampuses do miracles with destroyed stuff and make it look like they were arranging flowers or such. All while having a good time.

Hey Tom,
Ha, funny stuff , and true. I am an 'old bodied man !!
Yeah, I just spoke with a mature gentleman who does as you have said. He likes arranging metal/flowers and is fun to talk with also. He will 'look' at my problem pan. Thanks for suggestion as it has worn on me.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by jimTN

What is the difference between a 32-4 steel pan? If there is no difference, then those are available used.

Hey jim,
Well, this is a steel pan and a made with tuff 'springy' metal with ton of curves, whereas an aluminum pan is same shape , but not as hard to work, IMO.
This one is a '32 steel pan, but to use it with my trans setup ('39), the rear of the '32 pan is removed (flywheel cover portion). If I locate straight/good candidate , I can remove that portion again. Or continue to coax this bent up pan ! It is fun to play with metal, if a guy knows what he's doing. Otherwise, I've found that when I hit it here...it moves over there, without permission.
BTW..anyone on earth have an aluminum '32 pan in storage, I'd donate my gizzard for it

[Andy]

The 33-34 pans were exactly the same pans as a late 32 steel pan. The only difference is the dip stick boss. They even have the reliefs for the straight down water petcocks. Swap the 32 stick boss onto a 33-34 pan.

[1939 pickup truck]

I know Back in the Model T period, and perhaps into the Model A time, there was a fixture supplied by KRW to have an engine pan repair alignment tool frame system.

[Charlie Stephens]

Hardtimes

You forgot to mention that you have a Model B. All of the references to the aluminum pans were from the V8 guys.

Charlie Stephens

[JRHASZARD]

Hello Bill ! Happy New Year to you and Lee Ann

[john worden]

Hammer and dolly. May have to make a dolly says this " old body man "

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

Hardtimes

You forgot to mention that you have a Model B. All of the references to the aluminum pans were from the V8 guys.

Charlie Stephens

Hey Charlie,
Well, I think that some of the V8 flathead guys also know of and/or have '32 and up four cylinder engines/parts, etc.
Maybe wrong, but I think that some versions of Fords four cylinder engines had an aluminum pan from factory. Maybe the German version ?
And, you are correct that I have '32 B engines !

Anyway, I've almost settled that I'll end up modifying a Model A engine pan to put on my Model '32 B engine block.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by 1939 pickup truck

I know Back in the Model T period, and perhaps into the Model A time, there was a fixture supplied by KRW to have an engine pan repair alignment tool frame system.

I owe you a beer of your choice and a donut, it you can locate a picture/evidence of that KRW tool ! I would 'almost' swear that many moons ago, I saw such a pan jig/tool by KRW.

[deuce_roadster]

I think if DavidG chimes in here there is a difference between the late 32 steel pan and a 33 pan. I think there is one more hole somewhere.

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hey Charlie,
Well, I think that some of the V8 flathead guys also know of and/or have '32 and up four cylinder engines/parts, etc.
Maybe wrong, but I think that some versions of Fords four cylinder engines had an aluminum pan from factory. Maybe the German version ?
And, you are correct that I have '32 B engines !

Anyway, I've almost settled that I'll end up modifying a Model A engine pan to put on my Model '32 B engine block.

I probably lack your talent but if it was me I would look for a Model B pan. Somewhere in the back of my mind I can see that aluminum Model B pan in a picture but have never seen one in person. You may be right about it being in the German version.

Charlie Stephens