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david.skinner · 06-01-2015, 09:42 PM

What is a reasonably value to use on the wheel nuts of my wife's 36 pickup. Please note that is really a roadster with a colonial cab on it so its got car wheels on it.

Ta.
D.

J Franklin · 06-01-2015, 09:54 PM

I like 65# torque.

Phil Gillespie · 06-02-2015, 12:25 AM

Front or rear? There is a considerable difference!!
Phil
NZ

Charlie Stephens · 06-02-2015, 12:31 AM

Do you mean the ones that hold the rim to the drum or the ones that hold the drum/hub assembly to the axle (rear) or spindle (front)?

Charlie Stephens

david.skinner · 06-02-2015, 12:45 AM

Actually - All of them - I just want to make sure they are all done up appropriately given the lack of use the vehicle has had.
Many thanks.
D.

toby · 06-02-2015, 05:38 AM

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51 MERC-CT · 06-02-2015, 07:40 AM

I have to think about the millions upon millions of times these nuts were installed without the use of a torque wrench. Don't recall any issues being reported.

scooder · 06-02-2015, 07:41 AM

Tight, but not red face tight.
Martin.

stangblue · 06-02-2015, 08:02 AM

Drums tight enough to get loose with tire iron. Rotors look up the Torque Specs.

Mart · 06-02-2015, 08:20 AM

I use about 75 ft lbs. I tend to use a torque wrench purely because I have a really nice one I bought for next to nothing and get a kick out of using it.

wbedwards · 06-02-2015, 08:47 AM

I use a torque wrench on all my cars now. Had a tire dealer over tighten the nuts on a Miata one time and getting them off was quite an experience.

wbedwards

V8COOPMAN · 06-02-2015, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Gillespie

Front or rear? There is a considerable difference!!
Phil
NZ

Could you please explain WHY there would be "consideral difference" between front and rear wheel nut torque? DD

51 MERC-CT · 06-02-2015, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Could you please explain WHY there would be "consideral difference" between front and rear wheel nut torque? DD

Probably was referring to axle and spindle nut

NealinCA · 06-02-2015, 11:57 AM

Found this on the interwebs...

Lug Nut Torque Specs

Stud Torque Engagement
12mm 75 to 85 lb-ft. 7 Turns
14mm 85 to 95 lb-ft. 8 Turns
7/16" 70 to 80 lb-ft. 8 Turns
1/2" 75 to 85 lb-ft. 8 Turns (Early Ford)
9/16" 105 to 115 lb-ft. 8 Turns
5/8" 125 to 135 lb-ft. 8 Turns

Lawson Cox · 06-02-2015, 12:13 PM

Wow. Talk about senseless worrying. Now let's discuss how wide open a cotter key be spread. Gimme a break.

deuce_roadster · 06-02-2015, 01:15 PM

The rear nut hub to axle IS important. I disagree with stangblu, When the drum is on properly, it should take a puller such as a KR Wilson to remove the drum. The axle drives the hub due to friction on the taper NOT the key. Improperly tightened rear axle nuts are the reason they break at the end of the keyway slot. Ford literature has this nut at around 200/ft lbs.
Wheel nut torque in lbs are less critical, but need to be tight enough they don't work free.

Fibber Mcgee · 06-02-2015, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

Wow. Talk about senseless worrying. Now let's discuss how wide open a cotter key be spread. Gimme a break.

How far should a cotter key be spread? Do you spread both sides the same way or opposite? Do I magnaflux the old ones and reuse them or go with new ones?

36coupe · 06-02-2015, 02:30 PM

Wide fives?
Be consistent whether you go to 65 ft lbs or 105 ft lbs
I use a 85 ft lb torque limiter

Phil Gillespie · 06-02-2015, 02:53 PM

My earlier comments on difference between front and rear were refering to nut to hub torques and not the wheel nuts. Brain did not process correctly.
The torque on front and rear wheels is the same and in region of 60 to 100ftlbs as per previous posts.
Phil NZ

stangblue · 06-02-2015, 03:35 PM

What I thought we were talking about lug nuts or (wheel nuts). I'm going to put some pistachio nuts with bananas on my salad and go to bed early, plus its raining.

06-01-2015, 09:42 PM	#1
david.skinner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wellington NZ Posts: 85	Wheel nut torque ? What is a reasonably value to use on the wheel nuts of my wife's 36 pickup. Please note that is really a roadster with a colonial cab on it so its got car wheels on it. Ta. D.

06-01-2015, 09:54 PM	#2
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,969	Re: Wheel nut torque ? I like 65# torque.

06-02-2015, 12:25 AM	#3
Phil Gillespie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Christchurch New Zealand Posts: 1,611	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Front or rear? There is a considerable difference!! Phil NZ

06-02-2015, 12:31 AM	#4
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,033	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Do you mean the ones that hold the rim to the drum or the ones that hold the drum/hub assembly to the axle (rear) or spindle (front)? Charlie Stephens

06-02-2015, 12:45 AM	#5
david.skinner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wellington NZ Posts: 85	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Actually - All of them - I just want to make sure they are all done up appropriately given the lack of use the vehicle has had. Many thanks. D.

06-02-2015, 05:38 AM	#6
toby Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 472	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) 1949-1951 Ford per shop manual- 65-75#

06-02-2015, 07:40 AM	#7
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: Wheel nut torque ? I have to think about the millions upon millions of times these nuts were installed without the use of a torque wrench. Don't recall any issues being reported. __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

06-02-2015, 07:41 AM	#8
scooder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,593	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Tight, but not red face tight. Martin.

06-02-2015, 08:02 AM	#9
stangblue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 370	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Drums tight enough to get loose with tire iron. Rotors look up the Torque Specs. __________________ Assumption is the mother of all foul-ups.

06-02-2015, 08:20 AM	#10
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,756	Re: Wheel nut torque ? I use about 75 ft lbs. I tend to use a torque wrench purely because I have a really nice one I bought for next to nothing and get a kick out of using it.

06-02-2015, 08:47 AM	#11
wbedwards Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Birmingham, Al. Posts: 339	Re: Wheel nut torque ? I use a torque wrench on all my cars now. Had a tire dealer over tighten the nuts on a Miata one time and getting them off was quite an experience. wbedwards

06-02-2015, 11:57 AM	#14
NealinCA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Coast, Calif. Posts: 839	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Found this on the interwebs... Lug Nut Torque Specs Stud Torque Engagement 12mm 75 to 85 lb-ft. 7 Turns 14mm 85 to 95 lb-ft. 8 Turns 7/16" 70 to 80 lb-ft. 8 Turns 1/2" 75 to 85 lb-ft. 8 Turns (Early Ford) 9/16" 105 to 115 lb-ft. 8 Turns 5/8" 125 to 135 lb-ft. 8 Turns

06-02-2015, 12:13 PM	#15
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Wow. Talk about senseless worrying. Now let's discuss how wide open a cotter key be spread. Gimme a break. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

06-02-2015, 01:15 PM	#16
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Wheel nut torque ? The rear nut hub to axle IS important. I disagree with stangblu, When the drum is on properly, it should take a puller such as a KR Wilson to remove the drum. The axle drives the hub due to friction on the taper NOT the key. Improperly tightened rear axle nuts are the reason they break at the end of the keyway slot. Ford literature has this nut at around 200/ft lbs. Wheel nut torque in lbs are less critical, but need to be tight enough they don't work free.

06-02-2015, 02:30 PM	#18
36coupe Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Eastcoast Posts: 864	Re: Wheel nut torque ? Wide fives? Be consistent whether you go to 65 ft lbs or 105 ft lbs I use a 85 ft lb torque limiter

06-02-2015, 02:53 PM	#19
Phil Gillespie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Christchurch New Zealand Posts: 1,611	Re: Wheel nut torque ? My earlier comments on difference between front and rear were refering to nut to hub torques and not the wheel nuts. Brain did not process correctly. The torque on front and rear wheels is the same and in region of 60 to 100ftlbs as per previous posts. Phil NZ

06-02-2015, 03:35 PM	#20
stangblue Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 370	Re: Wheel nut torque ? What I thought we were talking about lug nuts or (wheel nuts). I'm going to put some pistachio nuts with bananas on my salad and go to bed early, plus its raining. __________________ Assumption is the mother of all foul-ups.