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Old 07-14-2023, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default Push button starter

I am adding a push button solenoid for the starter. One thing I have not seen in the forum, is where people mount the push button. I would like to mount it up under the dash panel somehow. But, I would like to see what others have done first.
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:49 AM   #2
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I suspended a small panel from the left side of the dash rail and mounted 3 switches in it. One bolt and an angle bracket is all that was needed, a hand built angle bracket about 3/4" wide and bent 90*. The panel was formed from a scrap of aluminum. Sorry, no pics.
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Hi IZZe I would suggest getting 2or 3inch momentary contact button on thfloor between the break and cluch pedal. for what's it's worth (free)
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You can find one on line
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:56 AM   #4
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Hi IZZe I would suggest getting 2or 3inch momentary contact button on thfloor between the break and cluch pedal. for what's it's worth (free)
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You can find one on line

X2 IMHO is preferable to have the push button on the floor. Leaves the hands free to operate the controls.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:19 AM   #5
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Leonard Nettles is doing a run of starter buttons designed to be mounted where the original starter rod came through the floorboards. They should be shipping soon.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1123...0063153779431/
(Sorry for those without Facebook, this is the only link I have.)
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Old 07-14-2023, 12:36 PM   #6
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A company named Fulton made a simple kit to accomplish getting away from the floor button. Basically just a rod and lever to extend it to the dash.
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Old 07-14-2023, 12:39 PM   #7
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I went one further, mine is a Key Start.
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Old 07-14-2023, 03:09 PM   #8
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Leonard Nettles is doing a run of starter buttons designed to be mounted where the original starter rod came through the floorboards. They should be shipping soon.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1123...0063153779431/
(Sorry for those without Facebook, this is the only link I have.)
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Old 07-14-2023, 03:28 PM   #9
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The push button starter isn't actually on the website yet, that's why I linked to the Facebook discussion.
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Old 07-14-2023, 06:29 PM   #10
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The push button starter isn't actually on the website yet, that's why I linked to the Facebook discussion.
True but Leonard said it will be soon and you can't buy it on Facebook. I was just giving people a link to his website that don't use Facebook.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:00 PM   #11
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All right fellas. I hooked up the 6v solenoid. When I activate the solenoid, it just buzzes. But, there is button on the bottom of the solenoid that turns the engine over just fine when pressed. What did I do wrong?
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All right fellas. I hooked up the 6v solenoid. When I activate the solenoid, it just buzzes. But, there is button on the bottom of the solenoid that turns the engine over just fine when pressed. What did I do wrong?
How did you wire the button? Is the button wired to a 6 volt power source or is it wired to ground.

I have a 6 volt solenoid in my stash that the small terminal has to be routed to ground (thru the button) to activate the solenoid.
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Old 07-15-2023, 12:41 AM   #13
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I wired the negative battery terminal to the solenoid. Solenoid to the starter. Push Button is wired to the battery terminal on the solenoid, and to the S terminal on the solenoid.

I was testing the button without it being mounted to the car. Per your reply, I should mount the button so it is grounded? I can test that tomorrow. If I don't decide to start converting it to 12v. Damn thing barely turns over with 6v.
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Check your ground connections and cable sizes. My starter feed cable turned out to be smaller diameter than #4 cable!
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I wired the negative battery terminal to the solenoid. Solenoid to the starter. Push Button is wired to the battery terminal on the solenoid, and to the S terminal on the solenoid.

I was testing the button without it being mounted to the car. Per your reply, I should mount the button so it is grounded? I can test that tomorrow. If I don't decide to start converting it to 12v. Damn thing barely turns over with 6v.
Sounds like you may have a 12 volt solenoid. Can you post a picture? Most 6 volt solenoids I have had experience with only have 3 terminals.

Here is a 6 volt solenoid that mounts on the Model A Starter

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Old 07-15-2023, 10:18 AM   #16
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Just my 2 cents- you replaced a simple and reliable, foolproof starter switch with a complicated jiggered up system that you can't get to work. Unless you're missing your right foot or something like that, why?
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:25 AM   #17
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This is the solenoid. It has three terminals. And has 6v stamped on the back.

Duralast Solenoid Switch F1490

I see that I do have a 2 gauge battery cable. I'll try swapping that out with 4 gauge.
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:45 AM   #18
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That solenoid fits early Fords so the small terminal need to go to ground.
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:45 AM   #19
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Proper restoration eliminates the need for most modifications.
#2 gauge should be heavier wire than #4, why replace it unless it has internal problems
Do a proper voltage drop test and find the real problem, 6 volts is not the problem
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This is the solenoid. It has three terminals. And has 6v stamped on the back.

Duralast Solenoid Switch F1490

I see that I do have a 2 gauge battery cable. I'll try swapping that out with 4 gauge.
4 gauge wire is smaller than 2 gauge. If anything you want a larger wire.

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That solenoid fits early Fords so the small terminal need to go to ground.
Thanks Bob for confirming what I said in post #12.

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Just my 2 cents- you replaced a simple and reliable, foolproof starter switch with a complicated jiggered up system that you can't get to work. Unless you're missing your right foot or something like that, why?
Excellent question!

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