09-29-2013, 03:21 PM | #1201 |
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What leads you to think it is the fuel pump causing the no-start? The carburetor should have fuel in it to start the engine after such a short down-time. I could understand a bad pump or lost prime if it didn't keep the carb bowl full while running.
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09-29-2013, 03:36 PM | #1202 |
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Hi Vic. Have you checked the fuel line for any possible pin-hole leaks from the tank to the fuel pump? Do you have a fuel pump with a glass bowl laying around that you could swap-out. At least you could see if the pump is loosing prime. I have a hunch that something isn't right between the the tank and fuel pump. Good luck and hope you are able to isolate the cause. I have heard of fule hoses with built-in check valves but you shouldn't need one for stock set-ups. Steve.
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09-29-2013, 04:10 PM | #1203 |
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Hi Gene & Steve,
Here is what's happening, as far as I can tell. The car will fire and run until the fuel in the carb is spent. That much fuel (in the float bowl) will not keep the car running long enough to prime the fuel pump. We checked the fuel line both with the car running and shut off. We found no evidence of fuel leakage or air intake. We checked every visible part of the fuel line (portions of it run through the boxed sections of the frame and are not visible but you can feel with your hand several inches in and there was no sign of dampness). We may run an auxiliary fuel line from the gas tank to the fuel pump to see if that makes a difference. I don't have a fuel pump with the glass bowl on it that will fit the "early style" mount on the oil fill housing. As I mentioned, once the fuel pump is primed, the engine runs fine, it was breaking up a little under a load in high gear but that symptom could be attributable to fuel delivery or an electrical malady… and we’ve had both with this car… Oh well, now I’ve got to pull the water pumps and have Skip rebuild them and, I think I’ll pull the starter motor and have it checked out as well as long as the car will be stuck up on the lift…
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Ok, I'll call this post "What I Did Before Breakfast"
I pulled the water pumps off of the '47 LC and cleaned them up. The nice thing about the V-12 water pumps is, you don't have to support the engine as the pumps do not serve as the front motor mounts. Now I'll send thes pumps off to Skip for a rebuild. Next, on my lunch hour , I'll pull the starter motor out... Yes, we are having fun...
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I ordered an Airtex 6 volt 2 to 4 psi electric fuel pump for the '47 LC, should have it this afternoon. Before I install it, along with a fuel pressure regulator (set at 2.5 psi) and a "kill" switch, I think I'll run a rubber fuel line from the gas tank up to the stock fuel pump and see if it will pull fuel. If it does, we'll replace the fuel line (that is in the car) with a new one. Can't play with the '47 LC this weekend, got other things to do... Should have the water pumps back from Skip sometime next week so, we'll shoot for next weekend.
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Hi Steve, after trying three different (known to be working) fuel pumps and getting the same result, I think it's safe to say that the problem is not directly related to the fuel pump. The strange thing is, once the fuel pump is primed, the car runs... there was an electric fuel pump in the car at one time however, it had been removed... At any rate, we'll see if the rubber fuel line from the tank to the fuel pump works... That's next weeks adventure...
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Seems like a leak somewhere "back there" would show up that way when the car is running and the pump is pumping. Might be a bit easier than running a rubber hose all the way back to the tank. |
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Bill, that's not a bad idea, I was just going to run the rubber fuel line from the tank to the fuel pump, not following the original fuel line but outside of the car, to see if the manual pump will pull fuel and stay primed after a shut down.
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I'm expecting to get the '47 LC's water pumps back from Skip today. If so, I'll install them and get back to messin' with the fuel delivery issue. Maybe by this weekend we'll have her running (as she should) so we can try to get the overdrive working.
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Hi Vic. Were you able to get the starter bench checked and/or rebuilt?
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Hi Steve, no, I haven't had a chance to pull the starter as yet... maybe this weekend... I might go to the Street Rod Nationals in Tampa on Saturday, Don will be going all three days so, you might run into him.
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Cool. Hope to see you guys.
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Got the '47 LC water pumps back from Skip today...
A little paint and... After they dry, I'll install them.
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I had a productive "lunch hour", I installed the water pumps on the '47 LC. I'm sure I also burned a few calories stretching over those "fat fenders"
One of these days I'll learn to follow my own advice, which is; always check to make sure the radiator petcock is closed before adding fluids... Good thing it was only water... otherwise it would have run into money...
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In preparation for the drive up to the Moonshine Festival, I finally decided to get the broken door windows (long story ) in the '51 F-1 fixed. It's getting cool in North Georgia (read that cold for someone who’s been living in Florida for the last 21 years ) so I wanted to be able to close the windows to fend off any chill in the air...
We'll be driving two vehicles up this year, our '51 F-1 and Steve's '55 F-100. Mike and Cliff will be riding shotgun with us. Here's a photo of Steve's '55 taken at my mom's house back several years ago when we drove it up for the Moonshine Festival. We're all looking forward to another fun ride, hope to see a bunch of FordBarner's there.
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My wife and I drove the '47 LC to a Halloween/Birthday Party Saturday night. Today I spent some time trying to figure out the best way to pack extra parts, etc. in the cab of the '51 F-1, for the trip up to Dawsonville for the Moonshine Festival this Thursday. I'll just put my luggage (one small bag) and my tool bag (a bit larger bag) in some plastic "garbage bags" just to keep the rain (hopefully there won't be any) off. I'm sure looking forward to the trip.
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Those are some nice looking trucks
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Thanks. Steve and I appreciate that. Vic
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Moonshine Memories
Or should it be miseries...? Nope…! We had fun! And, when you drive em, and I mean really drive em, stuff happens, and you deal with it... to me that's all part of the Flathead experience. Today I'll be back in the garage (or outside the garage in this case) changing the flat...
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