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johnmi · 11-17-2015, 07:41 PM

Which way is best to install engine? With accelerator assembly on block or without. Installing with it on could scratch firewall , with it off could loose shims when bolts are removed. Thanks John

Steve Plucker · 11-17-2015, 07:45 PM

I have done it both ways...

If you are worried about scratching the firewall, then put a good thick blanket between the two.

If you want to do it the other way, remove the bracket, bolts and shims...then install the engine, then replace the other parts accordingly...It can be done.

Pluck

Mitch//pa · 11-17-2015, 07:52 PM

i install the throttle bracket afterwards, it just makes things easier all around

aermotor · 11-17-2015, 08:35 PM

If the flywheel housing is bolted up how can the shimms fall out? Are they not between the housing and the engine not between the housing and bracket?

John

Vicky · 11-17-2015, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aermotor

If the flywheel housing is bolted up how can the shimms fall out? Are they not between the housing and the engine not between the housing and bracket?

John

The Accelerater Linkage bolts to the two top bolts, where the shims are installed. Without the bolts installed, the housing sometimes does not fit tight enough to hold the shims in place.

aermotor · 11-17-2015, 09:00 PM

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On mine the housing held the shims firmly and there was no way to move them even with the bolts out.

John

Tom Wesenberg · 11-17-2015, 09:13 PM

I use grease to hold them in place without the bolts.

George Miller · 11-17-2015, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmi

Which way is best to install engine? With accelerator assembly on block or without. Installing with it on could scratch firewall , with it off could loose shims when bolts are removed. Thanks John

best way is off. If on you might bend the two mounting brackets.

jeep44 · 11-18-2015, 03:58 AM

With the floorboards out, it's pretty easy to finagle the throttle linkage into place after the engine is installed

Brentwood Bob · 11-18-2015, 02:21 PM

A second reason for installing the linkage after the motor is in would be to avoid damage to the linkage.
Bob

larrys40 · 11-18-2015, 02:51 PM

John, you already have lots of responses but I would alway put the accelerator linkage in afterwards. It is very easy. As TBird and others have said.. if your shims are loose I would put a dab of sealant adhesive on them to hold them in place for insurance. I would never recommend installing an engine in with the accelerator installed on the flywheel housing first. Make sure the accelerator is in good shape with all pins/bushings tight and in good shape. When installed make sure you get full idle and full open throttle when depressed. If not resolve issues....

Larry Shepard

Indiana A. Lover · 11-18-2015, 10:00 PM

As others have already said , I put my linkage on after installing the drive train. Did I ever tell you folks on this Barn site how much I like each and every Day. Thanks for being here for me!!!!

Don from windy Indiana

aermotor · 11-21-2015, 07:11 PM

Okay, you all scared me. I pulled my engine and reinstalled without removing the flywheel housing. I went back and pulled the two bracket bolts and fished around and found that I did not lose the shims. Both were brass and measured .010. The gap when cleaned out was .011 and .012. Any problem with putting the .010 shims back?

John

Tom Wesenberg · 11-21-2015, 08:21 PM

To know the correct shim thickness you need to dial in the flywheel cover.
Chances are you will be real close by installing the .010"shims.

11-17-2015, 07:41 PM	#1
johnmi Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 94	Installing engine Which way is best to install engine? With accelerator assembly on block or without. Installing with it on could scratch firewall , with it off could loose shims when bolts are removed. Thanks John

11-17-2015, 07:45 PM	#2
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Installing engine I have done it both ways... If you are worried about scratching the firewall, then put a good thick blanket between the two. If you want to do it the other way, remove the bracket, bolts and shims...then install the engine, then replace the other parts accordingly...It can be done. Pluck

11-17-2015, 07:52 PM	#3
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Installing engine i install the throttle bracket afterwards, it just makes things easier all around

11-17-2015, 08:35 PM	#4
aermotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,099	Re: Installing engine If the flywheel housing is bolted up how can the shimms fall out? Are they not between the housing and the engine not between the housing and bracket? John

11-17-2015, 09:00 PM	#6
aermotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,099	Re: Installing engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) On mine the housing held the shims firmly and there was no way to move them even with the bolts out. John

11-17-2015, 09:13 PM	#7
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Installing engine I use grease to hold them in place without the bolts.

11-18-2015, 03:58 AM	#9
jeep44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: canton,michigan Posts: 312	Re: Installing engine With the floorboards out, it's pretty easy to finagle the throttle linkage into place after the engine is installed

11-18-2015, 02:21 PM	#10
Brentwood Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: brentwood, ca Posts: 4,249	Re: Installing engine A second reason for installing the linkage after the motor is in would be to avoid damage to the linkage. Bob

11-18-2015, 02:51 PM	#11
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 1,998	Re: Installing engine John, you already have lots of responses but I would alway put the accelerator linkage in afterwards. It is very easy. As TBird and others have said.. if your shims are loose I would put a dab of sealant adhesive on them to hold them in place for insurance. I would never recommend installing an engine in with the accelerator installed on the flywheel housing first. Make sure the accelerator is in good shape with all pins/bushings tight and in good shape. When installed make sure you get full idle and full open throttle when depressed. If not resolve issues.... Larry Shepard

11-18-2015, 10:00 PM	#12
Indiana A. Lover Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brook, Indiana Posts: 214	Re: Installing engine As others have already said , I put my linkage on after installing the drive train. Did I ever tell you folks on this Barn site how much I like each and every Day. Thanks for being here for me!!!! Don from windy Indiana

11-21-2015, 07:11 PM	#13
aermotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,099	Re: Installing engine Okay, you all scared me. I pulled my engine and reinstalled without removing the flywheel housing. I went back and pulled the two bracket bolts and fished around and found that I did not lose the shims. Both were brass and measured .010. The gap when cleaned out was .011 and .012. Any problem with putting the .010 shims back? John

11-21-2015, 08:21 PM	#14
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Installing engine To know the correct shim thickness you need to dial in the flywheel cover. Chances are you will be real close by installing the .010"shims.